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On 24/11/2024 at 14:41, Asashosakari said:

Quite the deceleration for erstwhile 14-0 Shimizuumi.

Indeed!  I had read that competition in sandanme is quite a large step up from jonidan, and if that is the case, this is the perfect illustration of that fact.

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Hatsu 2025 starting lineup:

O2w Onosato:  10 KK, 99-35, 2x M yusho

J5w Aonishiki:  7 KK, 48-9, Jd, Jk yusho

Ms3w Kusano:  4 KK, 20-8

Ms8e Matsui:  5 KK, 22-12-1

Ms8w Ishizaki:  3 KK, 16-5

Ms17e Mita:  2 KK, 11-3

Ms17w Okaryu:  4 KK, 22-6

Ms19w Inami:  5 KK, 27-8

Ms28e Seihakuho:  4 KK, 24-4, Jd yusho

Sd3e Shimizuumi:  3 KK, 18-3, Jk, Jd yusho

Sd8w Noda:  4 KK, 21-7

Sd46e Imamura:  4 KK, 18-10

Sd30e Karino:  4 KK, 20-8-7* (*0-0-7 in first basho)

Sd60e Goseizan:  2 KK, 12-0-2

Jd8e Furuta:  2 KK, 10-4

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Hatsu 2025, Senshuraku (Final)

No newbies this go-round

O2w Onosato:  10-5, 11 KK, 109-40, 2x M yusho

J5w Aonishiki:  12-3, 8 KK, 60-12, Jd, Jk yusho

Ms3w Kusano:  4-3, 5 KK, 24-11

Ms8e Matsui:  2-5, 5 KK, 24-17-1

Ms8w Ishizaki:  6-1, 4 KK, 22-6

Ms17e Mita:  6-1, 3 KK, 17-4

Ms17w Okaryu:  4-3, 5 KK, 26-9

Ms19w Inami:  4-3, 6 KK, 31-11

Ms28e Seihakuho:  2-5, 4 KK, 26-9, Jd yusho

Sd3e Shimizuumi:  4-3, 4 KK, 22-6, Jk, Jd yusho

Sd8w Noda:  6-1, 5 KK, 27-8

Sd46e Imamura:  3-4, 4 KK, 21-14

Sd30e Karino:  3-2-2, 4 KK, 23-10-9* (*0-0-7 in first basho)

Sd60e Goseizan:  6-1, 3 KK, 18-1-2

Jd8e Furuta:  6-1, 3 KK, 16-5

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4 minutes ago, DonKordylone said:

St. Hakuho didn’t make it :(

I've watched some of his bouts. There was nothing sacred about his sumo.

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Haru 2025 starting lineup:

O1e Onosato:  11 KK, 109-40, 2x M yusho

M15e Aonishiki:   8 KK, 60-12, Jd, Jk yusho

J14w Kusano:   5 KK, 24-11

Ms1w Ishizaki:  4 KK, 22-6

Ms4w Mita:  3 KK, 17-4

Ms11w Okaryu:  5 KK, 26-9

Ms13w Inami:  6 KK, 31-11

Ms32w Noda:  5 KK, 27-8

Ms52e Shimizuumi:  4 KK, 22-6, Jk, Jd yusho

Sd6e Goseizan:  3 KK, 18-1-2

Sd29e Furuta:  3 KK, 16-5

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Haru 2025, Senshuraku (Final)

O1e Onosato:  12-3Y, 12 KK, 121-43, 3x M yusho

M15e Aonishiki:   11-4, 9 KK, 71-16, Jd, Jk yusho

J14w Kusano:    14-1Y, 6 KK, 38-12, J yusho

Ms1w Ishizaki:  3-4, 4 KK, 25-10

Ms4w Mita:  5-2, 4 KK, 22-6

Ms11w Okaryu:  3-4, 5 KK, 29-13

Ms13w Inami:  4-3, 7 KK, 35-14

Ms32w Noda:  3-4, 5 KK, 30-12

Ms52e Shimizuumi:  3-4, 4 KK, 25-10, Jk, Jd yusho

Sd6e Goseizan:  5-2, 4 KK, 23-3-2

Sd29e Furuta:  5-2, 4 KK, 21-7

New Ikarigata: 6-1, 2 KK, 12-2

New Gonosho: 5-2, 2 KK, 11-3

New Wakaikazuchi: 6-1, 2 KK, 12-2

New Okada: 5-2, 2 KK, 10-4

New Goseimaru:  5-2, 2 KK, 9-5

New Ikazuchihayate: 5-2, 2 KK, 9-5

New Ideno: 4-3, 2 KK, 8-6

 

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Is Ōnosato going to be the first person to make Y without a MK? 

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1 hour ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

A completely different era, impossible to compare.

He still did the thing.  You have to make it conditional if you want to claim a first here: "In the 6B/Y era" or "in the 15-day basho era".

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19 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Is Ōnosato going to be the first person to make Y without a MK? 

If he does, first or not, he's going to make _intai_ without a MK, which is almost as impressive. And there are still two other sekitori wallys coming up behind him.

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23 minutes ago, Sue said:

If he does, first or not, he's going to make _intai_ without a MK, which is almost as impressive. And there are still two other sekitori wallys coming up behind him.

Only a couple of Yokozuna since 1958 have actually posted 8 losses, but I believe technically absences count as MK.

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On 27/03/2025 at 17:27, Reonito said:

Only a couple of Yokozuna since 1958 have actually posted 8 losses, but I believe technically absences count as MK.

They have in the past on The Wall.  I have, however, exempted those kyujo during their very first basho.

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