Nagoya 2022

[Octofuji 350]

6 hours ago, nelimw said:

I find myself rooting for him too. If records could reflect effort, he would be high on the list. I could see him getting winning a basho like Tamawashi's 2019 Hastu one day. In fact, Tamawashi is a good comparison to him, both have talent and effort but may only be able to string it together for 15 days once or twice in a career. 

With Ichinojo's win half of the top 16 on the current banzuke now have a yusho (including each of the top 6). The remaining eight are:

Hoshoryu, Abi, Kiribayama, Takanosho, Kotonowaka, Ura, Wakamotoharu, Takayasu.

Of these I could certainly see the first 5 winning a yusho at least once in their career.

[Shinobi Steve 146]

6 minutes ago, Eikokurai said:

Also, good to see Shodai make 10 wins meaning both surviving Ozeki made double digits. 

Both with double digits and wins against the Yokozuna. 

[Kashunowaka 300]

4 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said:

Don't feel bad. Shodai made fools of us all.

And yet it was just the same two basho ago, when Shodai was kadoban and started even worse with 1-5, to finish 9-6. 

[Gospodin 187]

9 minutes ago, Octofuji said:

With Ichinojo's win half of the top 16 on the current banzuke now have a yusho (including each of the top 6). The remaining eight are:

Hoshoryu, Abi, Kiribayama, Takanosho, Kotonowaka, Ura, Wakamotoharu, Takayasu.

Of these I could certainly see the first 5 winning a yusho at least once in their career.

Takayasu is four months removed from a jun-yusho with a playoff loss. I don´t write him off yet.

[Seiyashi 4,072]

28 minutes ago, Octofuji said:

With Ichinojo's win half of the top 16 on the current banzuke now have a yusho (including each of the top 6). The remaining eight are:

Hoshoryu, Abi, Kiribayama, Takanosho, Kotonowaka, Ura, Wakamotoharu, Takayasu.

Of these I could certainly see the first 5 winning a yusho at least once in their career.

Not the last two? Admittedly Wakamotoharu is a bit of an outside bet but the way their sumo is going, I'd think he has a higher chance of winning than Takanoshō.

[Eikokurai 3,437]

27 minutes ago, Octofuji said:

With Ichinojo's win half of the top 16 on the current banzuke now have a yusho (including each of the top 6). The remaining eight are:

Hoshoryu, Abi, Kiribayama, Takanosho, Kotonowaka, Ura, Wakamotoharu, Takayasu.

Of these I could certainly see the first 5 winning a yusho at least once in their career.

Finally we can complete the meme. Ichinojo joins the club of rikishi who have won hatsu yusho since Takayasu made Ozeki.

[RabidJohn 1,734]

Hats off to Aoiyama for resisting what must have been an enormous temptation to just strangle that leg-grabbing little bugger.

I'm really impressed by Midorifuji this basho. He's like my dog in that he doesn't seem to realise he's actually quite small. 
I did a double-take at Hoshoryu's 0-3 record against him, but understood when it quickly became 0-4.

The Shodai we got for the latter half of the basho could easily zensho. Surely there must be more to it than Magaki telling him to work up a sweat...

I felt Takakeisho handing the yusho to Ichinojo was a little anti-climactic, but that's only because I was hoping for a play-off.

Congratulations to Ichinojo for finally making it stick. As others have pointed out, he's had JY with higher scores.

[Octofuji 350]

14 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Not the last two? Admittedly Wakamotoharu is a bit of an outside bet but the way their sumo is going, I'd think he has a higher chance of winning than Takanoshō.

I guess Takanosho has proved he can stick around in san'yaku and hopefully he's still young enough to turn things around.

Wakamotoharu's looked good on the way up, definitely. While his sumo still impressed me this basho he hasn't managed to beat any of the (initial) joi unless you count Sadanoumi on Day 1.

I would love to see Takayasu finally climb out of that pit but I fear that he's too old to overcome his injuries.

[Hakuryuho 334]

Only just now got around to watching today''s bouts, of course my girlfriend wanted to brunch on senshuraku 

Couldn't be happier for Ichinojo, I just know the celebratory feast will be legendary 

[Eikokurai 3,437]

1 hour ago, Seiyashi said:

There's an awful load of laughs coming out this early in the yūshō interview. I'm intrigued to know what was actually said, and whether Ichinojō's awkwardness from being put on the spot has anything got to do with it.

 

1 hour ago, Kaninoyama said:

That's pretty much it. His Japanese isn't the greatest and I doubt he'd ever win a public speaking contest even in his own language. Plus I'm sure he's more nervous doing the interview than sumoing with a yusho on the line. 

 

1 hour ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

His expression towards the end of the interview was very much "Can I go now, sir?"

Fear of the post-yusho interview in Japanese would me make me self-sabotage if I ever found myself close to winning a championship. 

[Leo C 52]

Congrats to Ichinojo! I've always liked him for whatever reason and am happy he made it. Always seemed like he was able of going farther but wasn't putting his all into it; giving up at the bales and such, although now I know that that was more due to injuries than anything else, apparently. A solid outing including a win over Terunofuji which I loved.

[Bakayokozuna 52]

Wow Takakeisho jumping out of the dohyo as a celebration move was unexpected. He seems to really enjoy beating the yokozuna.

Congrats to Ichinojo for his well deserved yusho

[Kujo 116]

At the shikiri-sen, T. Hamster Rex proved he could physically get both hands down (I didn't think he was capable).

After Takakeisho's win the camera cut to the shitaku-beya showing Ichinojo with a (small) smile, I'd never seen him smile before. 

Congrats Ichi!


 

[kamizake 24]

2 hours ago, Octofuji said:

I guess Takanosho has proved he can stick around in san'yaku and hopefully he's still young enough to turn things around.

Wakamotoharu's looked good on the way up, definitely. While his sumo still impressed me this basho he hasn't managed to beat any of the (initial) joi unless you count Sadanoumi on Day 1.

I would love to see Takayasu finally climb out of that pit but I fear that he's too old to overcome his injuries.

takanosho seems very similar to tochiozan 

hes not good with belt and hes oshi style is not like abi chiotaikai or takakeisho he is very similar to tochiozan imo

the good news for takanosho is hes opponents are teru takakeisho mitakeumi shodai hoshoryu abi kiribayama etc so he has a good chance at least 1 yusho in his career

tochiozan had very tough guys hakuho harumafuji kakuryu kisenosato kaio chyotaika baruto kotoosho etc but he almost won a yusho but choked in the end and kyokutenho won it

[MrGrumpyGills 123]

20 minutes ago, Kujo said:

At the shikiri-sen, T. Hamster Rex proved he could physically get both hands down (I didn't think he was capable).

He frequently does.
:P

[Amamaniac 2,079]

6 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

Hoshoryu had some pretty good matches in my opinion, but obviously the sansho committee felt otherwise

Agreed, but I was under the impression that double-digit wins was almost a prerequisite for consideration...

[Amamaniac 2,079]

Mainichi Newspapers presented a sample championship portrait with Ichi in one of his debut keshomawashi.  That suggests to me that they weren't expecting an Ichinojo yusho, and dug up an old file photo for the occasion ... rather last minute. 

Will the final portrait match the sample awarded today, or can Mainichi update the photo?  That's something I've never kept track of.

[Akinomaki 40,208]

1 minute ago, Amamaniac said:

Mainichi Newspapers presented a sample championship portrait with Ichi in one of his debut keshomawashi.  That suggests to me that they weren't expecting an Ichinojo yusho, and dug up an old file photo for the occasion ... rather last minute. 

Will the final portrait match the sample awarded today, or can Mainichi update the photo?  That's something I've never kept track of.

It is up to Ichinojo to decide which kesho mawashi, this is just a placeholder with a standard NSK profile photo.

[Jakusotsu 5,892]

46 minutes ago, kamizake said:

takanosho seems very similar to tochiozan 

hes not good with belt and hes oshi style is not like abi chiotaikai or takakeisho he is very similar to tochiozan imo

the good news for takanosho is hes opponents are teru takakeisho mitakeumi shodai hoshoryu abi kiribayama etc so he has a good chance at least 1 yusho in his career

tochiozan had very tough guys hakuho harumafuji kakuryu kisenosato kaio chyotaika baruto kotoosho etc but he almost won a yusho but choked in the end and kyokutenho won it

Twitter much?

[Gurowake 4,031]

39 minutes ago, Amamaniac said:

Mainichi Newspapers presented a sample championship portrait with Ichi in one of his debut keshomawashi.  That suggests to me that they weren't expecting an Ichinojo yusho, and dug up an old file photo for the occasion ... rather last minute. 

Will the final portrait match the sample awarded today, or can Mainichi update the photo?  That's something I've never kept track of.

From what I recall, they always have a mocked up yusho portrait ready to go immediately for the winner, based on a previous official photograph.  They'll eventually get a new one made specifically for the actual yusho portrait.

[Gurowake 4,031]

58 minutes ago, Amamaniac said:

Agreed, but I was under the impression that double-digit wins was almost a prerequisite for consideration...

Well, it's almost certainly necessary for the kanto-sho, but for the other two it's not really.  There have been plenty of gino-sho given for impressive technical skill but with only 9 wins, or possibly even 8.  Myogiryu got 3 gino-sho early in his career with 9, 9, and 8 wins.  (He then got a 4th with 10 wins and a 5th and 6th with 11.)  Other times include Wakatakakage in Natsu 2021, Midorifuji in his debut in Haru 2021, Enho in Nagoya 2019, and I'm sure there are plenty of others.  The shukun-sho also regularly (in the past at least) goes/went to rikishi with only a bare KK, so long as they are the best-performing rikishi below Ozeki to have beaten a Yokozuna who finished with double digit wins. 

[hakutorizakura 609]

On 14/07/2022 at 14:25, hakutorizakura said:

Go Ichi!! 

I'll be thrilled to see him win the yusho. His two JY were pretty exceptional, hope he will continue performing well and achieve higher than those.

ICHINOJO YUSHO!!!

Glad I didn't jinx him

Now to find that yusho interview video...

[Yamanashi 3,793]

1 hour ago, Amamaniac said:

Agreed, but I was under the impression that double-digit wins was almost a prerequisite for consideration...

Your post immediately sent me to check for Aminishiki in the db -- I figured he'd be the classic case of an 8-7 or 9-6 Gino sho. However, all six of his were at double digits.

Interesting, though, was the history of his two Kanto sho; the first was July 2000 in his first basho as a Maegashira (10-5), and the second was 17 years later when he had his last flutter in the top rank (8-7 at M13).

[dada78641 884]

Pretty exciting end to the tournament. Bit of a shame we did not get the decider between Ichinojo and Terunofuji. Nice interview with Joe as well, I think the interview was probably more of a bother to him than the bout today. The audience enjoyed it too.

[Sue 494]

Early in the basho, Ichinojo showed everyone what he'd be like if he were fully healthy, and he was able to hang on long enough to win the yusho. I hope he can find a way to stay healthy in the future.

If the Shodai we've seen for most of the basho had shown up for day 1, he might have taken the yusho.

If the Yutakayama we saw today would actually show up every day, he wouldn't be fighting Darwin matches on senshuraku at the bottom of the division.

Is this the end for Kaisei? Will he give it one go in Makushita before hanging it up?