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Banzuke for Nagoya 2022

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Asashosakari    19,664

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https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

Makuuchi

Terunofuji    Y    ---
Takakeisho    O    Mitakeumi
---           O    Shodai
Wakatakakage  S    Daieisho
Hoshoryu      K    Abi

Kiribayama    M1   Takanosho
Kotonowaka    M2   Ichinojo
Tamawashi     M3   Ura
Wakamotoharu  M4   Takayasu
Endo          M5   Sadanoumi
Aoiyama       M6   Tobizaru
Okinoumi      M7   Hokutofuji
Tochinoshin   M8   Nishikigi
Shimanoumi    M9   Kotoeko
Chiyotairyu   M10  Meisei
Kotoshoho     M11  Midorifuji
Terutsuyoshi  M12  Takarafuji
Ichiyamamoto  M13  Chiyoshoma
Myogiryu      M14  Tsurugisho
Onosho        M15  Oho
Yutakayama    M16  Daiamami
Nishikifuji   M17  Chiyomaru

 

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Asashosakari    19,664

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Juryo

Ryuden       J1   Hidenoumi
Azumaryu     J2   Tohakuryu
Kagayaki     J3   Daishoho
Asanowaka    J4   Mitoryu
Chiyonokuni  J5   Tokushoryu
Atamifuji    J6   Bushozan
Akua         J7   Kotokuzan
Hiradoumi    J8   Enho
Kaisho       J9   Churanoumi
Shimazuumi   J10  Ishiura
Kaisei       J11  Tochimaru
Kitanowaka   J12  Yago
Oshoma       J13  Hokuseiho
Chiyosakae   J14  Gonoyama

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Asashosakari    19,664

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Makushita-joi

Takakento      Ms1   Kinbozan
Roga           Ms2   Kanno
Tomokaze       Ms3   Daishomaru
Kamito         Ms4   Chiyonoumi
Chiyoarashi    Ms5   Shohozan
Akiseyama      Ms6   Tsukahara
Tsushimanada   Ms7   Kotoyusho
Fujiseiun      Ms8   Hamayutaka
Kainoshima     Ms9   Tsurubayashi
Tochikamiyama  Ms10  Oshoryu
Tochiseiryu    Ms11  Kitaharima
Hakuyozan      Ms12  Shiden
Oki            Ms13  Yutakasho
Shishi         Ms14  Fukai
Shonannoumi    Ms15  Suzuki
 

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Asashosakari    19,664

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Makushita

  Reveal hidden contents


Sandanme

  Reveal hidden contents


Jonidan

  Reveal hidden contents


Jonokuchi

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(New shikona in red.)

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Gurowake    4,107

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  On 26/06/2022 at 21:39, Asashosakari said:

Hands up, who saw Hidenoumi getting stuck at J1w coming?

Not I.  Thanks for pointing it out.

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Gurowake    4,107

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  On 26/06/2022 at 21:03, Asashosakari said:

Kitanowaka   J12  Yago
Oshoma       J13  Hokuseiho
Chiyosakae   J14  Gonoyama

This is really baffling to me.  I had Kitanowaka and Yago at the bottom of the division, as it seemed all the promotees could reasonably placed higher than the bottom.

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Yubinhaad    11,761

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Very short list of shikona changes this time, only two in addition to that of shin-Juryo Gonoyama which was announced along with his promotion.

Sakaigawa-beya's Mizuno is now Zuitenryu, the first kanji is a different reading of the first of his home city, Mizunami in Gifu prefecture. There's a shrine called Tenryu-ji in the city of Kani, also in Gifu prefecture, perhaps that inspired the rest of the shikona?

Tamanoi-beya debutant Imazeki is now Toshunryu, the middle kanji there is taken from his real given name, Shunsuke.

J14w Nishikawa > Gonoyama (豪ノ山, ごうのやま)

Jd57e Mizuno > Zuitenryu (瑞天龍, ずいてんりゅう)

Jk17e Imazeki > Toshunryu (東俊隆, とうしゅんりゅう)

 

Two rikishi from Takasago-beya change the given name only. Asanoyama begins his comeback by reverting to his real given name, Hiroki. Meanwhile, his veteran stablemate Asatenmai switches from his real given name to Matazo.

Sd22w Asanoyama Hideki > Hiroki (広暉, ひろき)

Sd26e Asatenmai Seita > Matazo (又三, またぞう)

 

Two rikishi also make shusshin adjustments, although one is rather more long distance than the other.

Sd30e Kayo - Chiba-ken, Ichikawa-shi > Okinawa-ken, Naha-shi (沖縄県那覇市)

Jk17e Toshunryu - Tokyo-to, Minato-ku > Tokyo-to, Chuo-ku (東京都中央区)

 

I don't remember seeing anything about it last basho but it looks like there was a mini-COVID quarantine in Yamahibiki-beya, Jd76w Tenichi and Jd103w Masutani have maintained their ranks from the last banzuke. Tenichi therefore avoids falling to Jonokuchi for the first time since the 1993 Natsu basho, his first basho on the banzuke.

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Asashosakari    19,664

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  On 26/06/2022 at 21:49, Gurowake said:

This is really baffling to me.  I had Kitanowaka and Yago at the bottom of the division, as it seemed all the promotees could reasonably placed higher than the bottom.

I had pretty much that, just with the J13's flipped.

Might as well mention here that my juryo guess (did I post it?) has a whopping 7 ranks that are East-West flipped from the real thing (J1-4, J7-8, J13). The only other error was putting Tochimaru in front of Ishiura and Kaisei rather than behind them, so in GTB terms that would have been 11 twos, 15 ones and 2 zeros...

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Eikokurai    3,437

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As far as I can tell, there’s only one other instance of an 8-7 at J1w not moving east—Wakamiyama all the way back in 1968.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=196805#J

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=196807

In that case though, the J1e guy Daimonji also got screwed, missing out on promotion with an 8-7 too. Wakamiyama at least responded with a 14-1 yusho, but Daimonji went 5-10.

 

Correction: There were four others. Missed those when I scanned the list first time. Last time was in 1980.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_rank=J1w &form1_wins=8&form1_losses=7&form2_rank=J1

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Reonito    1,522

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  On 26/06/2022 at 23:28, Eikokurai said:

As far as I can tell, there’s only one other instance of an 8-7 at J1w not moving east—Wakamiyama all the way back in 1968.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=196805#J

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=196807

In that case though, the J1e guy Daimonji also got screwed, missing out on promotion with an 8-7 too. Wakamiyama at least responded with a 14-1 yusho, but Daimonji went 5-10.

I just lost the db but IIRC there were a couple of examples in 1978 and 1980, where they were leapfrogged by J2s with a 9-6, which makes somewhat more sense than a J3w...

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Eikokurai    3,437

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  On 26/06/2022 at 23:32, Reonito said:

I just lost the db but IIRC there were a couple of examples in 1978 and 1980, where they were leapfrogged by J2s with a 9-6, which makes somewhat more sense than a J3w...

Yeah, you quoted me while I was editing I guess. I missed four other instances from the list. 

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Gurowake    4,107

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  On 26/06/2022 at 22:34, Asashosakari said:

I had pretty much that, just with the J13's flipped.

OK, I guess I'm just not paying much attention to where they've been putting the promotees recently.  If it's been what they've been doing, OK, but it's still somewhat baffling.

 

edit: I suppose it might be a modest leniency for double digit losses.

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Katooshu    3,334

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I'd always thought KK = not getting demoted was the one sure thing about the rankings :-O

That's quite the case there with Asahikuni.

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code_number3    708

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  On 26/06/2022 at 22:08, Yubinhaad said:

Sd22w Asanoyama Hideki > Hiroki (広暉, ひろき)

What is his full name at the banzuke (as his full name is Ishibashi Hiroki)? And will he some day return to Asanoyama once reaching sekitori?

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  On 27/06/2022 at 07:55, code_number3 said:

What is his full name at the banzuke (as his full name is Ishibashi Hiroki)? And will he some day return to Asanoyama once reaching sekitori?

Asanoyama Hiroki is his full shikona as of this banzuke. Only the given name changed, his surname is still Asanoyama.

No idea whether he changes back to Hideki, because Hideki was chosen to honor his deceased high school coach, and it could be he feels like he dishonored the name by getting involved in the scandal.

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Koorifuu    1,020

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Well, we got our answer. The juryo playoff didn't make a difference at all, Daiamami stayed just ahead of Nishikifuji.

They did, however, avoid an awkward makuuchi-juryo split between them by ensuring that both were promoted, shafting suspension boys Ryuden and Hidenoumi in the process. They will clearly have to work harder than the others to make up for their past sins.

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Jakusotsu    6,049

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  On 27/06/2022 at 13:08, Koorifuu said:

They did, however, avoid an awkward makuuchi-juryo split between them by ensuring that both were promoted, shafting suspension boys Ryuden and Hidenoumi in the process. They will clearly have to work harder than the others to make up for their past sins.

Do you really think that was relevant in any way? My GTB draft had exactly the same order of lowest Maegashira without wasting any thought about supension shenanigans.

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  On 27/06/2022 at 13:42, Jakusotsu said:

Do you really think that was relevant in any way? My GTB draft had exactly the same order of lowest Maegashira without wasting any thought about supension shenanigans.

I did think that, but I'm remarkably inept at GTB so it means nothing. :-P

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Pitinosato    120

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  On 26/06/2022 at 21:39, Asashosakari said:

Hands up, who saw Hidenoumi getting stuck at J1w coming?

Regarding the expected high-points-results in GTB, 

I would think tink there were some, or even many.

but I expected him in front of Ryuden, I thought they would give him at least half of a rank

 

Pitinosato

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with the Asanoyama comeback and the entry in that division of the group of young guys who debuted in ozumo together earlier this year (Kototebakari, kotokenryu, daiseizan, wakanosho, hanafusa...)  and some other intertesting guys like Suguro or Shunrai, sandanme will be fun to watch!

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