Kintamayama 45,495 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) We're going to be on the lookout for rare kimarites this basho, it seems. In 1955 there were 68 kimarites. In 1960, they expanded to 70. In 2001, 12 were added, and we currently have 82. Additionally, three non-kimarite were added to the then existing 2, so now there are 5 non-kimarite (where you lose to yourself inadvertently) - Isamiashi, koshikudake, tsukite, tsukihiza, and fumidashi. There are three kimarites which have never been used since 1955: Kakezori (hooking backwards body drop) , Shumokuzori (bell hammer backwards body drop), and Sototasukizori. NHK announcers will be looking out for the kimarites, especially those that have not been used in Makuuchi yet in the Reiwa era. There are 25 of these. Some bouts can even be seen, some kimarites with relevant photos. Izori- last seen in Makuuchi in 1964 Iwakaze- Wakatenryuu Uchimusou- 2015 Hatsu- Tochinoshin- Ichinojou Oomata- Nagoya 1958 Fukunosato- Matsunishiki **Gasshouhineri- Kyushu 1965 Daishin- Maedagawa ^Kawazugake- Haru 2012 Takanoyama- Ikioi Koshinage Nagoya 2004 Asasekiryuu- Musouyama Sabaori Natsu 2001 Kyokutenhou-Kaihou Susotori Kyushu 2015 Harumafuji-Aoiyama Zubuneri Haru 1998 Asahiyutaka- Teraou Sotomusou Kyushu 1998 Kyokushuuzan-Asanowaka Tasukizori Hatsu 1952 Tsunenoyama- Oouchiyama Chongake Kyushu 2014 Joukouryuu-Terunofuji Tsukaminage Kyushu 1957 Tokitsuyama-Araiwa Tsumatori Haru 2000 Akebono-Tosanoumi Tsuriotoshi Hatsu 2017 Yoshikaze-Chiyoshouma Nichonage Aki 2007 Kasugaou- Futenou Nimaigeri Hatsu 2014 Tokitenkuu-Shoutenrou Yaguranage Kyushu 2015 Hakuhou-Okinoumi Yobimodoshi Aki 2013 Hakuhou Takarafuji Waridashi Kyushu 2012 Kisenosato - Masunoyama Kozumatori Hatsu 2015 Kagamiou- -Amuuru Tsutaezori* Aki 2002 Asashouryuu- Takanonami Oosakate Hatsu 2010 Baruto - Kakizoe Kotehineri Natsu 2018 Arawashi- Aoiyama Fumidashi Nagoya 2014 Kisenosato- Yoshikaze *Happened on day 4 Aki 2022- Ura -Takarafuji. ^ Happened on day 5 Kyushu 2022- Houshouryuu-Midorifuji ** Happened on day 9 Kyushu 2022- Tamawashi-Ura Edited November 22, 2022 by Kintamayama 8 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,751 Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) Same order of pics as above in the overview o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o Edited September 10, 2022 by Akinomaki 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suwihuto 133 Posted September 12, 2022 On 10/09/2022 at 08:50, Kintamayama said: Susotori Kyushu 2015 Harumafuji-Aoiyama Appears to be a foot tickle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sue 520 Posted September 13, 2022 Oh, darn. I looked at the thread title, and thought that some manufacturer had come out with a watch with 12 rare kimarite depicted around the dial. Alas. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,495 Posted September 14, 2022 On 10/09/2022 at 10:50, Kintamayama said: Kotehineri Natsu 2018 Arawashi- Aoiyama Just happened in Makushita-Shounannoumi over Chiyonoumi. I know it's not n Makuuchi, but still.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,816 Posted September 14, 2022 I think Ura's Tsutaezori can be added to this list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,751 Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) They are doing it again this basho - kimarite not yet used in Reiwa - in makuuchi o On 14/09/2022 at 10:19, Kaninoyama said: I think Ura's Tsutaezori can be added to this list. The other way round - they dropped it Edited November 11, 2022 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted November 11, 2022 What's the small gold fans on the left side denote - rarity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,276 Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Seiyashi said: What's the small gold fans on the left side denote - rarity? Yes, degree of rareness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obana 356 Posted November 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said: Yes, degree of rareness I thought 3 gumbai meant Showa Era, two Heisei 20th Century & one Heisei 21 Century. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,276 Posted November 11, 2022 All it says is レア度 so drop it in your fav machine translator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted November 17, 2022 Well, knock the kawazugake out of this list. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,903 Posted November 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Well, knock the kawazugake out of this list. So, Hoshoryu reads the papers, or lurks on Sumoforum. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted November 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: So, Hoshoryu reads the papers, or lurks on Sumoforum. For what it's worth I doubt he deliberately executed it. It looks to me more of a case of Midorifuji foolishly attempting to play Hōshōryū's game and the latter simply having better reflexes and reactions to collapse the attempt, and the gyōji just called what they saw. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mt fuji 976 Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Seiyashi said: For what it's worth I doubt he deliberately executed it. It looks to me more of a case of Midorifuji foolishly attempting to play Hōshōryū's game and the latter simply having better reflexes and reactions to collapse the attempt, and the gyōji just called what they saw. do the gyoji decide what the winning technique was? i thought the guy that reads them out gets to decide. great reaction from Hoshoryu to counter Midorifuji's leg sweep with a sweep of his own. particularly exciting after a day of quick losses in the rest of the top division Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, mt fuji said: i thought the guy that reads them out gets to decide. That guy (guys, actually, there's two of them) is also a gyōji, just in business wear sitting at a table to the side rather than in Edo attire like the one on the dohyō. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,846 Posted November 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: That guy (guys, actually, there's two of them) is also a gyōji, just in business wear sitting at a table to the side rather than in Edo attire like the one on the dohyō. It is nominally the guy who does the dohyo iri shikona announcement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,751 Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, mt fuji said: do the gyoji decide what the winning technique was? i thought the guy that reads them out gets to decide This gyoji only announces the kimarite at once and decides alone if it is a clear and easy case. Otherwise he calls the video room, where the oyakata specialist for the techniques decides. Thus sometimes the announcement comes when the next pair is already on or a correction is announced then. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,751 Posted November 21, 2022 On 10/09/2022 at 09:50, Kintamayama said: Gasshouhineri- Kyushu 1965 Daishin- Maedagawa Hochi knew that Tamawashi would do it today - they had an article about this on the site in the morning papers o 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Anyone else think the gasshōhineri should have been tokkurinage? Not that it would have been on the chart, though. Edited November 21, 2022 by Seiyashi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seregost 132 Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: Anyone else think the gasshōhineri should have been tokkurinage? Not that it would have been on the chart, though. I thought tokkurinage first time. But, because I don't know what a gasshohineri is (first time I see it), no idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted November 21, 2022 On 12/09/2022 at 22:15, Sue said: Oh, darn. I looked at the thread title, and thought that some manufacturer had come out with a watch with 12 rare kimarite depicted around the dial. Alas. I would buy that watch :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamitsuumi 402 Posted November 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Seregost said: I thought tokkurinage first time. But, because I don't know what a gasshohineri is (first time I see it), no idea https://www.sumo.or.jp/Kimarite/detail/60 During today's bout, there is some hineri but no gasshō (putting one's hands together)... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,512 Posted November 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Seregost said: I thought tokkurinage first time. But, because I don't know what a gasshohineri is (first time I see it), no idea Same here! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 136 Posted November 22, 2022 Absolutely tokkurinage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites