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Yokozuna Terunofuji in 2023

Terunofuji - 2023  

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  1. 1. How many times will Terunofuji win by Yorikiri in 2023? (He had 34 Yorikiris in 2021, and 15 in 2022)

    • Never!
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    • 49 or more
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  2. 2. How many kinboshis (losses to rikishi ranked below the sanyaku) will Terunofuji give away in 2023? (He gave away one in 2021, and eleven in 2022.) Please say which rikishi you think will get a kinboshi in the comments below.

  3. 3. Which of the following statements will apply to Terunofuji in 2023 (Select as many as possible that you think will happen to him).

    • He will have at least one zensho yusho.
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    • He will win three or more yushos.
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    • He will win either the yusho or jun-yusho in at least five bashos.
    • He will be involved in at least one kettei-sen (play-off) for the yusho.
    • He will face an opponent ranked M11 or lower at least once.
    • He will have at least one basho, where he appears on the torikumi every day, that he finishes with a 10-5 or worse record .
    • He will go kyujo in the middle of at least one basho.
    • He will not appear on the shonichi (day 1) torikumi in at least one basho (i.e. he will have declared himself kyujo prior to the first torikumi being made.)
    • He will lose three or more times to the same opponent. (Say who in the comments below.)
    • He will go intai (retire) during 2023.
    • None of the above.
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  • Poll closed on 07/01/23 at 20:00

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Terunofuji was made an Ozeki back in 2015. He lost his rank through injury in 2017, and then descended all the way down to Jonidan in 2019. 2021 saw the culmination of an amazing comeback, when he won four yushos, and was promoted to Yokozuna. 2022 was not so good for him, with just one yusho, and pulling out of two bashos, and skipping one basho entirely.

Please expand on your votes in the comments below - this will be used in the case of tie-breakers required at the end of the year to decide the yusho.

Previous polls:
2022
2021

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My strategy is to put my guess in as early as possible, because I don't think we'll have any real indication of his readiness for Hatsu in time for this poll to close so I don't think it will matter. I don't think Teru will have a good year. Maybe a yusho or two. Maybe more kyujo basho than not. I can definitely see him being injured for most of the year and this resulting in at least one disaster basho that wipes out the rest. 

Hopefully my clairvoyance is wrong.

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6 kinboshi to Wakatakakage - 2, Hoshoryu -1, Mitakeumi - 1, Kotonowaka - 1, Takakeisho - 1

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  On 14/11/2022 at 13:02, Getayukata said:

6 kinboshi to Wakatakakage - 2, Hoshoryu -1, Mitakeumi - 1, Kotonowaka - 1, Takakeisho - 1

Unless you expect Takakeisho (and I guess Mitakeumi...) to lose their Ozeki rank and drop out of Sanyaku, they won't be collecting any kinboshi.

 

For my guess I'll put Daieisho and Tamawashi as kinboshi recipients. Beyond that, I dunno.  Takayasu, Ichinojo, Meisei?

As to the "lose to the same opponent three times" bit, I'll say Tamawashi for that one.

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  On 16/11/2022 at 02:32, just_some_guy said:

Unless you expect Takakeisho (and I guess Mitakeumi...) to lose their Ozeki rank and drop out of Sanyaku, they won't be collecting any kinboshi.

 

For my guess I'll put Daieisho and Tamawashi as kinboshi recipients. Beyond that, I dunno.  Takayasu, Ichinojo, Meisei?

As to the "lose to the same opponent three times" bit, I'll say Tamawashi for that one.

Ooops, you are right! it was late and I was half asleep when I wrote that.

Can I amend my guess to Wakatakakage - 2, Hoshoryu - 1, Kotonowaka - 1, Takayasu - 1, Kiribayama - 1

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@Jejima The first poll question says "2022" where it should be "2023".

11 kinboshi given out in 2022? That's a lot... I think there will be fewer in 2023 but I still answered 9, how about: Tamawashi, Onosho, Meisei, Ura, Oho, Ichiyamamoto, Kiribayama, Mitakeumi and Hiradoumi.

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Daieisho (2), Meisei (2), Hiradoumi, Wakamotoharu, Ura, Takanosho

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I think he'll only appear in three bashos. One he'll win. one he'll finish and one he'll go Kyujo in after five days. I think this will be enough to keep him on the banzuke for January 2024. I stupidly said he'd lose three times to the same opponent so as a pure guess I'm going to pick Kotonowaka as that person (even though I don't think thhaat will actually happen).

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He will go kyujo in the middle of one basho.

He will not participate in one Basho.

So 4 Basho with 15 Bouts for him !

Pitinosato

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He'll stick around, but will only be in 3 full basho and a partial.  Thus my 6 kinboshi is rather low, but we'll stick it out there (Abi-2, Kotonowaka-2, Tamawashi, Wakamotoharu).

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Kinboshi to Tamawashi and Mitakeumi.

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Poll closed.

The general opinion is that he will win by Yorikiri somewhere in the low 20s.

Everybody expects him to give up at least a couple of kinboshis - roughly around one-per-basho that he turns up for.

D'oh!  Just realised that this poll needed to be closed a little early - as just about everyone got the 'won't appear on shonichi for at least one basho' question correct!

Most of us think that he will go kyujo during a basho at some stage this year.

Slightly over a quarter of us think he will retire this year.

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Terunofuji won twice by Yorikiri (against Kotonowaka and Kiribayama (before he became Kirishima)) in May.

Rocks was spot on with two!  Wow!  The next closest guess was far away with 12, by Kashunowaka and Kintamayama.

Terunofuji gave away three kinboshis, to M6E Meisei (May), M1E Nishikigi (July) and M1W Tobizaru (July).  Kyokufuji was the only player to get any of these correct in the comments (He had Meisei down for two.)

shimodahito was correct with three. I am the Yokozuna, Jejima, Rocks, WAKATAKe. Morty and Shatsume were all one-off.

For the statements in question 3, most of the answers are self-evident. He only competed in two bashos. One, where he won the yusho (without a play-off), and the other where he withdrew on day 4. The only statement that I think that I need to bring special attention is that the lowest ranked opponent that he faced, was a very genki M14E Asanoyama on day 13 of the May basho.

A couple of players (Yangnomazuma and I am the Yokozuna) got 6 correct, a couple more (Getayukata and Shatsume) got 7. The vast majority of us (12, including Rocks and shimodahito), got a respectable 8. Yarimotsu managed an impressive 9.....  But Kashunowaka got all ten correct!

The yusho is therefore between Rocks, shimodahito and Kashunowaka.....

Let's have a look at how they did for all three questions. Kashunowaka was rather far off with the kinboshi count - and shimodahito was miles off with the Yorikiri count. Rocks was not only spot on with Yorikiris, he was joint second for Q2 and joint 3rd for Q3, so.....

Yusho goes to Rocks! (Yushowinner...) and jun-Yusho goes to Kashunowaka (Secondprize...). I think a Shukun-sho would be in order for shimodahito. (Applauding...)

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