Asashosakari 19,648 Posted December 25, 2022 https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/ Makuuchi Terunofuji Y --- --- O Takakeisho Wakatakakage S Hoshoryu Takayasu S Shodai Kiribayama K Kotonowaka Meisei K Wakamotoharu Tobizaru M1 Daieisho Mitakeumi M2 Tamawashi Abi M3 Midorifuji Nishikifuji M4 Sadanoumi Ryuden M5 Nishikigi Hokutofuji M6 Myogiryu Ichinojo M7 Ura Onosho M8 Oho Takanosho M9 Endo Aoiyama M10 Hiradoumi Chiyoshoma M11 Tochinoshin Kagayaki M12 Okinoumi Kotoshoho M13 Kotoeko Ichiyamamoto M14 Azumaryu Tsurugisho M15 Mitoryu Takarafuji M16 Chiyomaru Customary comment that I still find this style of placing the sekiwake nonsensical. 4 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,648 Posted December 25, 2022 Juryo Akua J1 Bushozan Hokuseiho J2 Daiamami Atamifuji J3 Oshoma Tohakuryu J4 Enho Kinbozan J5 Kotokuzan Churanoumi J6 Daishoho Chiyonokuni J7 Tochimusashi Shimanoumi J8 Kitanowaka Roga J9 Hidenoumi Gonoyama J10 Terutsuyoshi Chiyosakae J11 Shimazuumi Takakento J12 Asanoyama Shonannoumi J13 Kaisho Tsushimanada J14 Hakuyozan 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,648 Posted December 25, 2022 Makushita-joi Tamashoho Ms1 Ishizaki Tomokaze Ms2 Tokushoryu Chiyonoo Ms3 Tochikamiyama Shiden Ms4 Kamito Tsukahara Ms5 Fujiseiun Dewanoryu Ms6 Tokihayate Kawazoe Ms7 Chiyonoumi Tochiseiryu Ms8 Tanabe Chiyoarashi Ms9 Tochikodai Otsuji Ms10 Daiseiryu Yago Ms11 Tochimaru Daishomaru Ms12 Yuma Akiseyama Ms13 Mukainakano Chiyotora Ms14 Asonoyama Setonoumi Ms15 Yoshii 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,503 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Well, at least I got the 4K/4S thing right.. Not in the correct positions, but still.. And the rest was crap as usual. Edited December 25, 2022 by Kintamayama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,648 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Makushita Oki Ms16 KitadaichiMineyaiba Ms17 KiryukoHitoshi Ms18 KayoKotodaigo Ms19 HamayutakaShishi Ms20 ChiyonokatsuHikarifuji Ms21 FukaiNarutaki Ms22 KototebakariHayatefuji Ms23 TokunomusashiMiyagi Ms24 NihonyanagiKanzaki Ms25 NishinoryuHokutomaru Ms26 WakatakamotoHokaho Ms27 OmotoKotoyusho Ms28 FujitoshiKairyu Ms29 TochinoboriNabatame Ms30 RyuoKototsubasa Ms31 KotodairyuKotohaguro Ms32 HigonoumiHatsuyama Ms33 AkitobaSasakiyama Ms34 AsanowakaMudoho Ms35 KainoshimaOnojo Ms36 AraumaShohoryu Ms37 NobeharaOsanai Ms38 KirinofujiHokutenkai Ms39 OyamatoumiFujiazuma Ms40 KazekenoAwanokuni Ms41 KazutoRyusei Ms42 TosamidoriFujinoyama Ms43 DewataikaiOhata Ms44 SadanohikariKitaharima Ms45 OshoumiWakazakura Ms46 MaikeruTsurubayashi Ms47 ChiyoogaKotoryusei Ms48 AkinoyamaYuki Ms49 KotoozutsuDaikisho Ms50 AsakokiKumanoryu Ms51 KaiseijoAsagyokusei Ms52 NionoumiOginohama Ms53 OkinohamaTokinohira Ms54 TakahashiKaishin Ms55 HatookaDainichido Ms56 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Yubinhaad 11,761 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) A magnificent seven shikona changes on this banzuke, all of the rikishi are changing from their family names. The most notable change is courtesy of Kise-oyakata (former Maegashira Higonoumi), who has bestowed his own shikona on his deshi Inoue, a fellow Kumamoto native. The new Higonoumi also changes the given name. A pair of changes from Fujishima-beya, where Suzuki is now Fujinoyama and Shinohara is now Tendozan. Two changes also in Nishonoseki-beya - Takeoka is now Kirinryu, the first two kanji are a throwback to the old Nishonoseki-beya which was home to former Ozeki Daikirin and former Sekiwake Kirinji. Meanwhile, Nishihara is now Amao, honouring his home city of Amagasaki, and also makes a given name change. Over in Hanaregoma-beya, November recruit Toriyama makes his banzuke debut as Kitanosho, presumably taken from a ruined castle of the same name which is found in his home city of Fukui. Lastly to Musashigawa-beya where Wayama is now Hayanami. Ms32w Inoue Tomohiro > Higonoumi Taro (肥後ノ海 太郎, ひごのうみ たろう) Ms43e Suzuki > Fujinoyama (富士の山, ふじのやま) Sd14w Wayama > Hayanami (早南嶺, はやなみ) Sd27e Takeoka > Kirinryu (麒麟龍, きりんりゅう) Sd37w Shinohara > Tendozan (天道山, てんどうざん) Sd89e Nishihara Takato > Amao Takeshi (尼王 猛獅, あまおう たけし) Jk14w Toriyama > Kitanosho (北乃庄, きたのしょう) There are also two name changes among the gyoji ranks. I expected Kimura Ryosuke to switch from his real given name to mark his Juryo promotion on this banzuke. However I'm quite surprised by the change of both names for Shikimori Tomotaro. Kimura Ryosuke > Kimura Kozaburo (木村 幸三郎, きむら こうざぶろう) Shikimori Tomotaro > Kimura Katsunosuke (木村 勝之介, きむら かつのすけ) Edited December 25, 2022 by Yubinhaad 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 1,020 Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Asashosakari said: Customary comment that I still find this style of placing the sekiwake nonsensical. As in you believe it should be like ozeki, where they're ordered by their results on the previous basho? It feels like they're treating sekiwake, first and foremost, the same as toriteki. Nobody gets a demotion with a KK. A KK sekiwake will NOT fall down the order. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 387 Posted December 25, 2022 I have zero skills with the DB, and doubt this would even be catalogued in a searchable manner, but anyone know when the last time we had a set of brothers together in the junior sanyaku ranks? Am I correct to assume Takahanada/Wakahanada? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,503 Posted December 26, 2022 605 rikishi on the banzuke, one less than in Kyushu. 44 heyas. Kokonoe beya with the most rikishi for the 6th straight basho with 26, followed by Sadogatake with 25, Takasago with 24, Kise with 22, Tamanoi and Hakkaku with 21, 5 heyas tied for 7th place with 19: Sakaigawa, Dewanoumi, Takadagawa, Miyagino and Tatsunami, then Isegahama and Oitekaze with 18. These last two are also tied for the most sekitori (6, both with 4 Makuuchi and 2 Juryo, which means that a third of their rikishi are sekitori..). Tokiwayama beya can also boast that a third of their rikishi are sekitori, 3 of 9. Nishikido has 100 % sekitori, as the only rikishi there is Mitoryuu.. Then it's Kasugano, Shikihide and Tokitsukaze with 17 rikishi each, followed by Musashigawa and Nishonoseki with 16, and Naruto with 15. Least rikishi - Nishikido and the newly established Ajigawa with one each, Kataonami with 4, Takekuma and Oshiogawa with 6, 13 heya in all have one-digit sekitori. 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,648 Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Koorifuu said: As in you believe it should be like ozeki, where they're ordered by their results on the previous basho? It feels like they're treating sekiwake, first and foremost, the same as toriteki. Nobody gets a demotion with a KK. A KK sekiwake will NOT fall down the order. Unfortunately, inconsistency is the name of the game, as usual. Anyway, this change of approach only dates back to 2014. It remains a rather odd thing to put their foot down on and go against decades of previous decisions that (to my knowledge) nobody had ever raised any issues with. 10 minutes ago, Tochinofuji said: I have zero skills with the DB, and doubt this would even be catalogued in a searchable manner, but anyone know when the last time we had a set of brothers together in the junior sanyaku ranks? Am I correct to assume Takahanada/Wakahanada? It's been deemed important enough that it appears in the official Banzuke Topics (not up in English yet). Previous pairs of brothers who reached sanyaku (order: older / younger): Wakanohana (sanyaku debut 1951.09) / Takanohana (1970.09), no concurrent time in lower sanyakuSakahoko (1984.07) / Terao (1989.03), concurrent in 1989.03 and 1990.11Wakahanada (1991.11) / Takahanada (1991.07), concurrent in 1992.03 3 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 387 Posted December 26, 2022 46 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: Unfortunately, inconsistency is the name of the game, as usual. Anyway, this change of approach only dates back to 2014. It remains a rather odd thing to put their foot down on and go against decades of previous decisions that (to my knowledge) nobody had ever raised any issues with. It's been deemed important enough that it appears in the official Banzuke Topics (not up in English yet). Previous pairs of brothers who reached sanyaku (order: older / younger): Wakanohana (sanyaku debut 1951.09) / Takanohana (1970.09), no concurrent time in lower sanyakuSakahoko (1984.07) / Terao (1989.03), concurrent in 1989.03 and 1990.11Wakahanada (1991.11) / Takahanada (1991.07), concurrent in 1992.03 Thank you! Clearly I need to check out the Banzuke Topics page more often, as that is very helpful. Much appreciated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chijanofuji 113 Posted December 26, 2022 First time ever having both 4 Sekiwake and 4 Komusubi on a banzuke? I believe it is. Can someone double-check? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,756 Posted December 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chijanofuji said: First time ever having both 4 Sekiwake and 4 Komusubi on a banzuke? I believe it is. Can someone double-check? The last time was Natsu 1962 https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2022/12/26/kiji/20221225s00005000657000c.html 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chijanofuji 113 Posted December 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: The last time was Natsu 1962 https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2022/12/26/kiji/20221225s00005000657000c.html Thanks! I overlooked that one in my quick sweep across the banzuke in the sumo database because of all the sanyaku rikishi listed at HD Sekiwake and HD Komusubi! But, in combination with there also only being only one Yokozuna and one Ozeki on the banzuke it must be a unique banzuke, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,756 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) Haru 1898, the banzuke from 125 years ago with 1 yokozuna and one ozeki o Then the yokozuna as ozeki-(small below: yokozuna) This time, Terunofuji marked as big yokozuna-smaller ozeki (right to left) o makuuchi Edited December 26, 2022 by Akinomaki 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chijanofuji 113 Posted December 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Haru 1898, the banzuke from 125 years ago with 1 yokozuna and one ozeki Beautiful! But that banzuke only has 2 Sekiwake and 3 Komusubi and not 4 of both, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,756 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Chijanofuji said: 23 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Haru 1898, the banzuke from 125 years ago with 1 yokozuna and one ozeki Beautiful! But that banzuke only has 2 Sekiwake and 3 Komusubi and not 4 of both, right Only 8 years after the yokozuna first appeared on the banzuke, with 2 basho a year, so not many possibilities for a banzuke like this time. Not even another occurrence of one yokozuna and one ozeki before the 2 basho then, the other Natsu 1897 - and no mention of a 3rd time 4s-4k in the 64 years between. Another fact: Kotonowaka I&II are the 6th time that father and son made it to sanyaku http://www.daily.co.jp/general/2022/12/26/0015920746.shtml Edited December 26, 2022 by Akinomaki 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,756 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Another fact: Kotonowaka I&II are the 6th time that father and son made it to sanyaku As grandson of Kotozakura in 3rd generation to sanyaku is a first, but it's not in direct father-son line - Oho will go for the next occurrence Edited December 26, 2022 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wakawakawaka 157 Posted December 26, 2022 Poor Midorifuji, back to back... M1w 7-8 > M3w (never before happened) then M3w 8-7 > M3w (never before happened) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted December 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Akinomaki said: As grandson of Kotozakura in 3rd generation to sanyaku is a first, but it's not in direct father-son line - Oho will go for the next occurrence Although Ōhō is also not descended from Taihō in the direct male line, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,903 Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Seiyashi said: Although Ōhō is also not descended from Taihō in the direct male line, right? No; I believe Takatoriki married Taiho's daughter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,108 Posted December 27, 2022 Basically we have yet to get three generations in the direct male line in sanyaku. In fact I don't think it's happened for makuuchi yet either, right? At most maybe the best chances are the Onami brothers or Kurohimeyama's family, but I seem to recall at least some of them failed to make it to makuuchi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,648 Posted December 27, 2022 Not even for juryo. Banzuke topics Hatsu 2021 for Oho's sekitori debut: Nobody appearing as both son and father yet. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,756 Posted December 27, 2022 On 25/12/2022 at 23:33, Yubinhaad said: Over in Hanaregoma-beya, November recruit Toriyama makes his banzuke debut as Kitanosho, presumably taken from a ruined castle of the same name which is found in his home city of Fukui. Confirmed, the shikona was decided by conferring with the shisho and the other deshi. Shibata Katsuie built Kitanosho castle 北ノ庄城 - Kitanosho added the 乃no from the shisho's Tamanoshima 玉乃島. This shikona marks him as representative of Fukui - Fukui shimbun will surely follow his progress. http://www.fukuishimbun.co.jp/articles/-/1696949 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,756 Posted December 27, 2022 Banzuke day pics - the 2 new komusubi : Kotonowaka - dad wants him to graduate soon from Kotonowaka: the change to Kotozakura is planned for ozeki promotion from the start On 07/10/2015 at 15:19, Akinomaki said: Kamatani, starting as Kotokamatani. Maybe on juryo promotion, maybe earlier he'll become Kotonowaka II, if he makes it to ozeki Kotozakura II, the oyakata has reserved these 2 names for him. o o o o Wakamotoharu - alone o o o o Abi without banzuke, just interviewed o o o vid He's back to maegashira, but the traditional local pics of Mitakeumi pointing (wrong) at the banzuke don't return 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites