code_number3 698 Posted June 1, 2023 now Magaki-oyakata 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
code_number3 698 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) I thought he’ll back to coach Tottori Jōhoku Edited June 1, 2023 by code_number3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godango 973 Posted June 1, 2023 Yeah wow, this explains why he didn't retire much sooner. Good for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,892 Posted June 1, 2023 To be honest, I wasn't even aware of him still being on the banzuke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) The intai isn't surprising. The shūmei is. I wonder how this fits into his plan to succeed his father. Did that fall through, or is Ishiura simply the first of a line of Hakuhō deshi that will occupy Magaki when need be? Edited June 1, 2023 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raishu 207 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, code_number3 said: I thought he’ll back to coach Tottori Jōhoku Has there ever been an official statement that this is/was the plan? I seriously can't remember. But what I can remember is that one or two SF members speculated about him succeeding his father and this thought has been absorbed and reproduced several times here on the forum. Edited June 1, 2023 by Raishu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,263 Posted June 1, 2023 So amazing how quickly a rikishi's fortunes can change. It seems like it was only yesterday that he was 11-4 as a Maegashira 12. But that was at the Jan 2022 basho and it's been all downhill since then. He first caught my eye in Sept 2014 when I attended the Aki basho. At that time he was in Makushita. He was exceptionally fast and utilized a great variety of kimarite. I just knew he was destined for great things. A more knowledgeable friend than me scoffed and assured me that Ishiura would never amount to anything because he was "too little." I was convinced that he belonged in Makuuchi and I was right. At his first basho in Makuuchi in Nov 2016, he made a big splash, winning 10 bouts in a row and receiving a special prize for Fighting Spirit. When I was invited to Miyagino-beya by a friend, I was introduced to Ishiura. He seemed stunned that I knew his name. He never said a word, just stared at me! He was so little that we just faced each other, eye to eye. Unfortunately, my taxi arrived before I had a chance to attempt to carry on an actual conversation with him. But from then on, I cheered for him every time he mounted the dohyo. His intai was a long time coming. I will never forget him. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rokudenashi 298 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) Ex-Chikubayama giving up his san’yo post early then? edit: yes https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202306010000552.html double edit: I should read the kabu thread before posting Edited June 1, 2023 by rokudenashi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,072 Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Raishu said: Has there ever been an official statement that this is/was the plan? I seriously can't remember. But what I can remember is that one or two SF members speculated about him succeeding his father and this thought has been absorbed and reproduced several times here on the forum. That would have been me among others, but tabloids might have started it first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,917 Posted June 1, 2023 Wow, that sucks hard. His condition must have been worse, than we all thought. But at least he's staying in sumo, congratulations on that! That kabu was even less expected, very nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raishu 207 Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Seiyashi said: That would have been me among others, but tabloids might have started it first. I mean it's totally plausible. With kabu being sparse, Ishiura might be the temporary place older until a more decorated Miyagino rikishi picks up the Magaki name and he will eventually leave for Tottori Johuku. And now he has an income to support his family (opposed to being a lower ranked rikishi on the banzuke). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 924 Posted June 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, Raishu said: I mean it's totally plausible. With kabu being sparse, Ishiura might be the temporary place older until a more decorated Miyagino rikishi picks up the Magaki name and he will eventually leave for Tottori Johuku. And now he has an income to support his family (opposed to being a lower ranked rikishi on the banzuke). How old is Ishiura Sr? Whilst I agree this is plausible, we're still looking at a looong time before any other of Hakuho's deshi is at that stage in his career, provided nature runs its natural course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,262 Posted June 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Benihana said: Wow, that sucks hard. His condition must have been worse, than we all thought. But at least he's staying in sumo, congratulations on that! That kabu was even less expected, very nice. It’s the type of injury where it doesn’t really have any effect on daily life, but if you continue contact sports (esp. American football) re-injury is highly likely and worse spinal cord damage is probable. Not retiring for so long kind of made me nervous he’d try to come back so it’s relieving news. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themistyseas 238 Posted June 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Koorifuu said: Whilst I agree this is plausible, we're still looking at a looong time before any other of Hakuho's deshi is at that stage in his career, provided nature runs its natural course. Probably depends how crocked 28 year old (29 this year) Enho is and how likely it is that he'll make it back. Enho's on 29 sekitori basho. So even if the rumour mill is correct and he has plans to join or replace Ishiura eventually in the heya, he might need to gambarise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,792 Posted June 1, 2023 2 hours ago, themistyseas said: Enho's on 29 sekitori basho. I hadn't noticed that. Total bummer. That puts a new light on the promo/demo discussion this basho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamitsuumi 391 Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Yamanashi said: I hadn't noticed that. Total bummer. That puts a new light on the promo/demo discussion this basho. Either Enho can use the Hōchiyama clause (28 basho + oyakata as guarantor) or *tinfoil hat on* inherit Miyagino and let Hakuhō branch out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripe 70 Posted June 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Kamitsuumi said: Either Enho can use the Hōchiyama clause (28 basho + oyakata as guarantor) or *tinfoil hat on* inherit Miyagino and let Hakuhō branch out. It would be far more likely that he inherits Miyagino because Hakuhō decides to quit and leave sumo... which is something a few people suspect will happen sooner or later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,262 Posted June 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ripe said: It would be far more likely that he inherits Miyagino because Hakuhō decides to quit and leave sumo... which is something a few people suspect will happen sooner or later. For sure I can understand why people think hakuho may be pushed out but, look. He hasn’t even been retired for 2 years yet and he’s already maneuvering exdeshi into kabu. Takanohana ichimon is gonna look like a lame joke compared to what hakuho apparently has up the sleeve. I’m not a hakuho fan but clearly I wouldn’t underestimate his political machination… yet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,073 Posted June 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said: For sure I can understand why people think hakuho may be pushed out but, look. He hasn’t even been retired for 2 years yet and he’s already maneuvering exdeshi into kabu. Takanohana ichimon is gonna look like a lame joke compared to what hakuho apparently has up the sleeve. I’m not a hakuho fan but clearly I wouldn’t underestimate his political machination… yet Eh, paying off his own shisho isn't exactly master strategy, and getting the Magaki kabu originally probably didn't require anything but money either, seeing as its rights were likely held by someone no longer with the Kyokai. It'll take more than such low-hanging fruit in the future, and now people are warned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,073 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Koorifuu said: How old is Ishiura Sr? If ja.wiki can be believed, he turns 62 next month. 10 hours ago, Raishu said: I mean it's totally plausible. With kabu being sparse, Ishiura might be the temporary place older until a more decorated Miyagino rikishi picks up the Magaki name and he will eventually leave for Tottori Johuku. And now he has an income to support his family (opposed to being a lower ranked rikishi on the banzuke). I agree, it's a conceivable scenario. It's arguably been done before, but (apropos the previous comment) not by yokozuna Takanohana but rather his ozeki father - a lot of the rikishi from that 1990s Futagoyama-beya powerhouse era became oyakata, but not nearly all of them ended up staying long. Edited June 1, 2023 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,892 Posted June 2, 2023 Regarding Enho, keep in mind that Mainoumi needs a successor as well sometime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,207 Posted June 2, 2023 Not many pics o o o oo 5 min. video from local NHK vid Mitokorozeme against Nishikigi Kyushu 2019 o Tottori jungyo Oct. 2017 o Hakuho's yusho Natsu 2016 o 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,207 Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Ishiura/Magaki had his intai press conference today with Miyagino-oyakata: With a healthy body I want to see the children grow up - doctor-stop for the career vid the danpatsushiki is planned for June next year oo o o o o oo ooo o o o vs. Shohozan o Kyushu 2021 vs. Chiyomaru o Haru 2019 vs- Kagayaki the local paper had several articles with older pics Kyushu 2016 day 11 vs. Myogiryu, 10th win in a row o the McLaren kesho mawashi joining the heya o in Australia o at the interhigh 2007 Earlier news clip http://www.nkt-tv.co.jp/pc-news/news107aupi1le9h5e6x4ff.html Edited June 8, 2023 by Akinomaki 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 924 Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) On 01/06/2023 at 22:29, Asashosakari said: If ja.wiki can be believed, he turns 62 next month. Thank you. I'm going to beat on the Tottori Johoku drum some more - assuming that he does indeed get his father's position, as speculated, upon the latter's retirement - that gives Miyagino (and possibly Enho) a few more years of planning, keeping the Magaki toshiyori active & under control in the meantime. Edited June 7, 2023 by Koorifuu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
