Aki 2023 discussion (results)

[Bunbukuchagama 770]

Takerufuji is a stud. Sanyaku material.

[sumojoann 1,268]

Wow!  Hokuseiho!  He finally put that left arm (and the right one, too) to good use.

[Bunbukuchagama 770]

22 minutes ago, sumojoann said:

Wow!  Hokuseiho!  He finally put that left arm (and the right one, too) to good use.

A miracle!

[Akinomaki 40,753]

The dohyo-matsuri was public at a Tokyo basho again after 3 years and 8 months - it was already in Osaka though, so no need to wait this long

Mitoryu seems to be able to use his full potential now that his coach Sendagawa is gone - was he the negative influence in Nishikido-beya? - he killed a woman with his car once, at a time when violation of NSK rules was still a trifle

Arashio on Abema told that Wakatakakage likely wanted to join the basho, but apparently he forced him to listen to the doctors and didn't even ask him if he wants to

Edited September 11, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Naganoyama 5,945]

7 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Araiso on Abema told that Wakatakakage likely wanted to join the basho, but apparently he forced him to listen to the doctors and didn't even ask him if he wants to

Arashio?

[Asashosakari 19,646]

I don't feel comfortable starting a thread on it yet, but Nikkan (in an odd 9pm release) claims that "multiple people are saying" that Tokushoryu "will" retire and that the Kyokai "will announce it soon". No idea if that means it'll become official tomorrow, or...

[Akinomaki 40,753]

Sd Tochimitsuru - Ryuseiyama made the gyoji and half of the shimpan smile at the mono-ii conference: the gyoji had pointed to Tochimitsuru, who literally fell for a henka, but Ryuseiyama dropped down by his own henka momentum as Tochimitsuru stumbled down and out - torinaoshi: after a matta, Tochimitsuru won properly by oshidashi

o

Edited September 11, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Hankegami 537]

28 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Sd Tochimaru-Ryuseiyama made the gyoji and half of the shimpan smile at the mono-ii conference: the gyoji had pointed to Tochimaru, who literally fell for a henka, but Ryuseiyama dropped down by his own henka momentum as Tochimaru stumbled down and out - torinaoshi: after a matta, Tochimaru won properly by oshidashi

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I believe that's Sd78e Tochimitsuru and not Tochimaru (see him as Ryuseiyama's opponent on Day 2 Sandanme results). For a few minutes I wondered how Tochimaru managed to get down to Sandanme that soon. Shame there is no video about that btw, sounds funny.

[Tochinofuji 387]

16 hours ago, One time for your mind said:

As a 5 year lurker who just signed up to say this: I agree this is about as good as it gets for sumo information in English. 

But the discourse often gets pretty heated over what I would consider minutiae. And I’ve witnessed quite a few of these human sumo encyclopedias on here tear down people who show even the slightest ignorance.

I’ve learned a ton here, but as an argumentative person myself, I decided to just stay away rather than get all upset about sumo, which is one of the ways I relax.

Cheers all!

Oh without doubt, no forum is immune to heated discussions and interesting personalities. But that's the internet isn't it? I'd just say the atmosphere here is better than most places, though nowhere is perfect. 

But I'd also just say it is important to remember that what one person considers minutiae can be considered matters of great import by those who've invested deeply in something as their passion. Old hands in any hobby tend to take the details quite seriously, along with the recording and passing on of knowledge. I wouldn't judge some of the veterans too harshly for being sticks in the mud (we as a community have benefitted a lot from their efforts), even if the occasional eye-roll is entirely warranted. 

[Octofuji 368]

15 hours ago, Koorifuu said:

My early input: Hakuyozan is still a twat. 

More villainy today against Akua in the matta, at least he got his comeuppance this time

[Octofuji 368]

21 hours ago, Shikona said:

Yes, but clearly wincing as he tugged at the arm sleeve afterwards. A quality win for sure, but is each match going to be making the injury worse?

What a beautiful throw against Kotonowaka today using that injured arm! This is shaping up really very nicely with the Ozeki and ex-Ozeki storylines.

You are no doubt right but until there's a major change in the way injuries are managed I guess we may as well enjoy it.

[dingo 1,293]

Hokutofuji is back this basho with a vengeance. And what sweet vengeance it was for him against Hoshoryuu. 

[Seregost 132]

For sure Kirishima and Hoshoryu should be the favourites this time, despite the latter's loss today. I think they'll have more succesful Ozeki careers than the last ones. Sad that Hakuoho is kyujo, but he chose the wisest path. Hopefully he'll be back in action for Hatsu kicking some asses. And now that Onosato seems focused, let's hope for a fast raise through Juryo to reach Makuuchi as soon as possible. Undoubtely the confrontation between Miyagino and Nishonoseki, impersonated in Hakuoho, Kiho and Tenshoho, and Onosato and Takahashi respectively, will be fun to watch in the next years. 

[Gurowake 4,100]

22 minutes ago, dingo said:

Hokutofuji is back this basho with a vengeance. And what sweet vengeance it was for him against Hoshoryuu. 

I have to wonder if whatever caused him to miss most of a tournament a few years ago was bugging him for a while, and now he's back to the strength he was at back then.  I would have expected him to be swatted like a fly by the upper ranks given his last couple years.

[Fashiritētā 184]

39 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

I have to wonder if whatever caused him to miss most of a tournament a few years ago was bugging him for a while, and now he's back to the strength he was at back then.  I would have expected him to be swatted like a fly by the upper ranks given his last couple years.

Maybe now we can say he has the most powerful kachi koshi in all of sumo

[Reonito 1,518]

14 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Takerufuji is a stud. Sanyaku material.

It's frustrating that they shafted him at 6e where he needs a 7-0

[Koorifuu 1,019]

15 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Terutsuyoshi folded. Literally. 

Better hand next time.

[nutzername 16]

I'm one of the rather silent consumers of this top notch sumo forum. 

Time to contribute, even if it's just mundane ramblings. 

 

I immensely enjoyed the Kitanowaka - Asanoyama bout today. 

If it weren't for the taping/sleeve on the arm, I couldn't tell Asanoyama still being injured these last two days. 

 

I'm happy to see that Hokutofuji doesn't seem to have taken the missed chance to win a tournament to heart in a negative way, instead going out with high energy and getting his revenge today. Always rooting for Hokutofuji as I find his style very entertaining. 

 

[ryafuji 815]

14 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Mitoryu seems to be able to use his full potential now that his coach Sendagawa is gone - was he the negative influence in Nishikido-beya? - he killed a woman with his car once, at a time when violation of NSK rules was still a trifle

It seems odd to me to bring up that car accident, which was over two decades ago (and he was held to be not at fault, the pedestrian stepped out into traffic), as evidence of Toki's supposed negative influence as a coach. There could be any number of reasons why Mitoryu is looking better this basho. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by ryafuji
typo

[Koorifuu 1,019]

32 minutes ago, ryafuji said:

It seems odd to me to bring up that car accident, which was over two decades ago (and he was held to be not a fault, the pedestrian stepped out into traffic), as evidence of Toki's supposed negative influence as a coach. There could be any number of reasons why Mitoryu is looking better this basho. 

I'm not privy to any savoury details about moto Toki as a person and trainer, but Oshoma just merrily handing Mitoryu migiyotsu off the bat was always going to make the latter look good. Not sure what Naruto is teaching Oshoma but it certainly isn't opponent-specific tactics.

[Katooshu 3,325]

18 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Takerufuji is a stud. Sanyaku material.

He is a stud, but in the amateurs he could barely go 2 years without a major injury that sat him out. Hope his legs have toughened up.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Katooshu

[Hoshotakamoto 259]

4 hours ago, Reonito said:

It's frustrating that they shafted him at 6e where he needs a 7-0

I'm still reeling from the Kyokutaisei loss in Jonokuchi.

[Reonito 1,518]

1 hour ago, Katooshu said:

He is a stud, but in the amateurs he could barely go 2 years without a major injury that sat him out. Hope his legs have toughened up.

No wrapping/braces to be seen atm, hopefully that's a good sign

[Bunbukuchagama 770]

3 hours ago, Reonito said:

No wrapping/braces to be seen atm, hopefully that's a good sign

No problem today, just ran through Kiryuko.

[Katooshu 3,325]

Shimanoumi now 0-3 after losing to Onosato, might need to get that kabu ready.