When will Onosato be ranked higher than Hokutofuji for the first time?

[Asashosakari 19,427]

Daiki Nakamura clash!

Idea shamelessly stolen, obviously, though the expected dynamic is a bit different than it was for Onosato-Hakuoho. Let's hope this one ends up a bit more suspenseful in any case.

Britney Spears-type response choice included for the bonus question if you don't care for it.

You have all year (ahem) before the poll closes.

Edited November 26, 2023 by Asashosakari

[Katooshu 3,251]

This makes me wonder, have two sekitori with the same name in English ever faced each other?

Edited November 27, 2023 by Katooshu

[Yarimotsu 585]

1 hour ago, Katooshu said:

This makes me wonder, have two sekitori with the same name in English ever faced each other?

I took a different interpretation of your question and decided to manually search through all the foreigners for first names in common. As for actually answering your question which I now see is probably about other instances of Japanese rikishi with the same name in romaji, I don't have the database-scraping automation required but others do.

Caveats everywhere, including that I may have missed one or two matches of Mongolians, who seem to have many similar first names that are slightly different, and I don't understand Chinese/ Korean names but don't think I saw a full match.

Obviously(?) we have Ukrainian Danylo in Jonokuchi who might be able to catch up to Daniel from Bulgaria and meet him for a bout, so I was probably influenced by that.

Roho and Wakanoho are both Russians called Soslan, they fought twice: https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_opp.aspx?r=1421#6527 . Unless we get our Dans to match up, this is the only case I could find of foreigners with the same name fighting.

Kokkai https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=1187 and his brother/cousin(?) https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=6564 have the same surname and first name and competed at the same time but not same division.

I found two Brazilians called Mario, with a generational gap https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=913 https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=1509 .

Most of the other cases of name matches I found were in the same stable: Akebono and his brother(?) https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=2048 share a surname, Musashimaru and his son(?) share a whole name https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=12098 , this guy Yamato https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=57 had a brother also https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=2191 . 

[Oskanohana 261]

After giving somewhat boring answers, i'll be spicy naming the kimarite for the first clash: okuridashi. Style wise, Hokutofuji should have a good match-up if Onosato keeps his ways. Still, I don't see old Daiki with the staying power to profit from it now. 2 years ago, sure.

 

[Gurowake 4,088]

It's looking increasingly likely that they'll never meet.  Might be a few years before we know for sure though.

[Katooshu 3,251]

It would be beyond tragic if we never get this match, especially after missing out on Asonoyama vs Asanoyama in makushita

[Reonito 1,470]

It's common but not certain for M5 to meet M9, but given that we missed out on that, something like K-M11 is not impossible but tends to require an unusual set of circumstances.

[Jakusotsu 5,982]

17 minutes ago, Reonito said:

...something like K-M11 is not impossible but tends to require an unusual set of circumstances.

Well, we had K Abi against M10 Mitakeumi and M12 Shonannoumi last basho, and that didn't appear particularly unusual.

[Reonito 1,470]

3 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Well, we had K Abi against M10 Mitakeumi and M12 Shonannoumi last basho, and that didn't appear particularly unusual.

They were both technically in the yusho race late and so got pulled up. In the 144 basho since 2000, only 33 had a meeting between a komusubi and someone ranked M10-M12. Most of those had only one such meeting; there were only 9 basho with 2 or 3, including this past one...

[Katooshu 3,251]

It pains me that this increasingly looks like it will never happen. I don't know that the senior Daiki has it in his tank to get up there these days, after being a rock solid high maegashira for years. 

Maybe I should put my hope in Asanoyama vs Asonoyama again

Edited November 16, 2024 by Katooshu