Chaingang Massacre!

[aderechelsea 125]

cheers to the new rule (like i have been playing before it ....)

cheers to Toki's pathetic display of sumo who helped me 2 out of four days to survive in the game

[Kintamayama 45,116]

I want everyone out by day 6!! This is sooo much more fun..

Fun for you, but not for the players (Eating...)

Perhaps the rules could be changed to allow the ozekis but not yokozunas, or you may pick a loser instead of a winner.

I beg to differ. This is a totally different concept. Adding a choice to pick the losers is a totally different game. We can go on and on about new rules, such as picking only players from the East etc..I think the large majority of players do enjoy the challenge. That said, I play all games on earth, and I have ideas to better every single one of them, so many different ideas are a good thing, and so is constructive criticism.

On the bright side, this basho has broken all attendance records big time, so I guess there are still some players out there who enjoy it.

As for players who don't enjoy it, there are many other games out there.. No one, except for me and Zenjimoto, has to play ALL of them..

[Asashosakari 19,320]

or you may pick a loser instead of a winner.

At the risk of sounding obtuse, what would be the difference to how CG is currently played?

[jomojo 0]

As some have been irritated with the rule change I must say that I think it's really good as it is now (as opposed to before). Not only because it suits me more, but because I think there is more point to the game this way.

Btw, I'm still in (Eating...)

Completely agree with you.

jomojo

[Zeokage 0]

don't change.

i never played under the old rules. as i understand it this is a do-or-die game. if you want longeivity play a diferent one.

my record so far

july: 10th place

Edited November 18, 2004 by Zeokage

[Asashosakari 19,320]

Ryukaze/Ryunokaze

Takahike/Taka

Definitely 4 different people.

[Zenjimoto 40]

Baja/Bafa: Somehow doubt they are the same. F anf J are not THAT close on the keyboard (Scratching chin...)

Empi/Empiryu: likeliness high that they are the same

Fotoryo/Fototyo: almost certainly the same

Nimonju/Nimonryu: given the bashos these two played, an excellent question :-)

Ragerkawa/Ragerkawa2: pretty safe to say its the same guy I would guess

Ryukaze/Ryunokaze: despite suspicions, they seem to be two people :-(

Takahike/Taka: definitely two different people

Vincentohana/Vincentohano: very likely the same

Thomshiki/Tominishiki/Tominishki: Thomshiki is not Tominishiki. Tominishki IS Tominishiki :-( Not to be confused with Tomitsuki, Thomashimaru, and Toschima :-P

In that spirit, who would have EVER thought that Ullishimaru and Ulishimaru are NOT the same person!! (according to Ullishimaru!) :-)

And then there are Japanese Kaio, Japanese Kaiou (different kanji), Russian Kaio, Russian Kairo, Japanese Taka and Danish Taka... fortunately they don't all play Chaingang :-)

Cheers

Zenjimoto

Edited November 18, 2004 by Zenjimoto

[Kintamayama 45,116]

9 left. Day 5. 15 players and two drones dropped out today. Takekaze and Roho cost many.

[wanchanyama 0]

As some have been irritated with the rule change I must say that I think it's really good as it is now (as opposed to before). Not only because it suits me more, but because I think there is more point to the game this way.

Btw, I'm still in  :-D

Completely agree with you.

jomojo

I agree, this is only the second time I've played, but the beauty of the game as far as I see is the unpredictability of picking those who are not pretty much guaranteed to win.

Keep the ozeki and yokozuna out unless it is head to head. Game is great as it is.

wanchanyama

[Fujisan 533]

Taking the Yokozuna and Ozekis out is the same as taking them out of real sumo,it might make it more interesting but this is a sumo game,not a sumo(except Yokozuna and Ozekis)game. (Whistling...)

Edited November 18, 2004 by Fujisan

[Asashosakari 19,320]

Taking the Yokozuna and Ozekis out is the same as taking them out of real sumo,it might make it more interesting but this is a sumo game,not a sumo(except

Edited November 18, 2004 by Asashosakari

[Kintamayama 45,116]

Taking the Yokozuna and Ozekis out is the same as taking them out of real sumo,it might make it more interesting but this is a sumo game,not a sumo(except  Yokozuna and Ozekis)game. (Showing respect...)

Actually, some other Sumo games don't include any O/Y- Paper Oyakata comes to mind.

You play that, don't you? It's just THAT kind of a game. And all pre-basho games limit the number of Y/O you can pick. That's not like real Sumo!!! Come on..

The reason for excluding them in CG was obvious, in case you've forgotten. When 25 players stuck with Asa because he was on a zensho streak, it was really "cool", but crippled the game. There had to be a change, otherwise where's the fun? Oh, right-as long as you win, it's fun..

Even in real life betting pools like Toto, when a team really sucks, it gets taken off the betting sheet. This is vice versa. That's how stuff works sometimes.

OTOH, if the Ozeki keep up their excellent showing of late, I may return them to the game..

Edited November 18, 2004 by Kintamayama

[ragerkawa 0]

Ragerkawa/Ragerkawa2: pretty safe to say its the same guy I would guess

Cheers

Zenjimoto

Yes, those are both me, I've only played a couple of basho (and I don't guess, er play, very well). I abandoned the first (Ragerkawa) when I was, for some reason, unable to log in with it. I was in a hurry, so I just created another entity. It's the first sumo game I have tried.

[Takamueda 0]

(Waving white flag...) OK, I see there's no chance for a rule change in short time. I'll just keep trying to be successful in the definitely most difficult sumo game; and 1 day I will win it! (Spooky TV program...)

[Kintamayama 45,116]

(Waving white flag...) OK, I see there's no chance for a rule change in short time. I'll just keep trying to be successful in the definitely most difficult sumo game; and 1 day I will win it! (Spooky TV program...)

Excellent and good luck!!

[Kintamayama 45,116]

Day 8- 4 left.

[Fujisan 533]

Paper oyakata doesn't include Sekiwake or Komusubi either because it is specifically aimed at the maegashira ranks-

Chaingang was supposed to be the whole makuuchi division but it isn't now.

[Kintamayama 45,116]

Paper oyakata doesn't include Sekiwake or Komusubi either because it is specifically aimed at the maegashira ranks-

Chaingang was supposed to be the whole makuuchi division but it isn't now.

Wrong. It's JURYO and Makuuchi, and nothing was specific. It was a game where you had to guess one winner. That was specific. Never stipulated which ranked rikishi can play. It was never supposed to be what you say it was supposed to be. What irks me is you keep arguing with ME about it, as if you might know better. I thought it up, it is modular. The rules change with the times and circumstances, much like life itself. Makuuchi is now 42 rikishi. so shall we quit watching Sumo because it was supposed to be 40?

Get off it. I think you're just pissed because now you can't have your freebie.

You're too obsessed with the games. "The site is down!!" "Why is this and that??".

Take it easy. They're just games. BTW, how are you doing in the "easy" ISP game?

[jomojo 0]

Take it easy. They're just games.

Hear, Hear.

(Sign of approval)

jomojo

[Fujisan 533]

1. Chiisabuke 73

2. Fujisan 63

3. Gunterao 62

4. Daninowaka 56

5. Metzinowaka 55

6. Kaenkamiko 53

7. Sunibono 52

8= Furanohana 51

8= Heikotoriki 51

8= Pastanoyama 51

Looks good for me on paper but with two day 1 drop outs this year I dont think its gonna last- (I am not worthy...)

Mind you last bashos Jun yusho helped alot.

[Fujisan 533]

Wrong. It's JURYO and Makuuchi, and nothing was specific. It was a game where you had to guess one winner. That was specific. Never stipulated which ranked rikishi can play. It was never supposed to be what you say it was supposed to be. What irks me is you keep arguing with ME about it, as if you might know better. I thought it up, it is modular. The rules change with the times and circumstances, much like life itself. Makuuchi is now 42 rikishi. so shall we quit watching Sumo because it was supposed to be 40?

Get off it. I think you're just pissed because now you can't have your freebie.

You're too obsessed with the games. "The site is down!!" "Why is this and that??".

Take it easy. They're just games. BTW, how are you doing in the "easy" ISP game?

Yes I did know that but in the heat of the moment I overlooked it.

You are right though I do get a little obsessive at times but I am harmless,if you just tell me to shut up moaning it usually works!(Till next time anyway)

I was gonna give a speach about how great all the games are but you know that anyway,just keep up the good work and I really am sorry if I upset you-

I haven't changed my opinions but I have made my point and will say no more.

Oh and after a rough start I am 5-5 in ISP.

[Kintamayama 45,116]

You are right though I do get a little obsessive at times but I am harmless,if you just tell me to shut up moaning it usually works!(Till next time anyway)

I was gonna give a speach about how great all the games are but you know that anyway,just keep up the good work and I really am sorry if I upset you-

I haven't changed my opinions but I have made my point and will say no more.

Oh and after a rough start I am 5-5 in ISP.

Excellent. All I can add is "Ganbare!!" and on with the show!!

Oh, and BTW, the last four rikishi are standing firm after day 10 as well-all went with Wakanosato.

Edited November 23, 2004 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 45,116]

Day 11 saw 2 drop, leaving Harunochiba and Rayama. Osh erased Norizo and Konizan.

Day 12, both players erased- both, surpirisingly, picked Hakuhou.

The winner is Harunochiba, by virtue of picking a lower ranked rikishi on average.

Congratulations!!

Edited November 25, 2004 by Kintamayama

[Jejima 1,384]

Chain Gang is certainly one of my favourite games. Of course I'll keep playing it in its present form - and keep getting knocked out in the first week.

*But* I still think one of the original ideas for this game - ie you are allowed to pick any rikishi during the basho, but you can only pick each rikishi once - would make this great game even better.

I know Kintamayama would argue that this would make it too similar to SQ, but I would disagree. (That would be like comparing ISP to Sekitori-Toto.) In SQ you sometimes pick weak 'gamble' picks to save better picks for later on. But if this element were to be included in Chain Gang, this wouldn't happen, as any loss, and you would be out, so you probably wouldn't take big risks... Also with SQ, towards the end of the basho you tend to be scraping the bottom of the barrow when it comes to who to pick. If Chain Gang were to follow this format, you should still have reasonable picks left in the 2nd week, as you would only have to pick a total of 15 out of 66 (so less than a quarter).

Jejima awaits Kintamayama to tell him (again) that this wouldn't be a good idea (Pulling hair...)

[jomojo 0]

Chain Gang is certainly one of my favourite games. Of course I'll keep playing it in its present form - and keep getting knocked out in the first week.

*But* I still think one of the original ideas for this game - ie you are allowed to pick any rikishi during the basho, but you can only pick each rikishi once - would make this great game even better.

Oh I see ... you could then pick the Yokozunas and Ozekis, but only once each ... I guess it would help more players make it through to the second week of the game. Could be an interesting innovation.

jomojo