Yarimotsu 550 Posted October 30 Welcome to Game 21 for the Kyushu 2024 Basho. I am launching the game again today, while Profomisakari will be back for the day to day comments. HOW TO PLAY GAME 21 Shortly after the Banzuke is published, 21 potential bouts are selected by the admins. You just have to decide which bouts will or will not take place and, if they will, who you think will be the winners. The deadline to play is always the Friday before the basho starts. Usually at 11 AM (JST) / 2 AM (UTC), but may be hours earlier if I discover the torikumi has already been revealed. Each correct pick will earn you one point. If a Rikishi is listed in one of the potential bouts but never has a match scheduled in the Basho, the bout will not count for the allocation of points. If two or more entrants end up with the same number of correct picks, the two following tiebreaker rules will apply: TB1: entrants will earn TB points for their ability to spot winning outsiders (i.e. the fewer players to correctly pick a winner, the more TB points you score) and the entrant with most TB points will win the tiebreaker. TB2: if the first tiebreaker does not break the tie, the entrant with the earliest submission time will be declared the winner. Your submission time updates if you edit. If you want to play, simply click the link below. it will take you to a multiple-choice form that will offer you three choices for each bout: A if you think the first Rikishi will win B if you think the second Rikishi will win X if you think the bout will not take place In addition to your picks and your shikona, the form will ask for a valid email address. The reason for this request is (a) to allow the system to send you a copy of your picks and (b) to allow you to update your choices until the deadline by clicking the “Edit Response'' button that is in the email. If you want to play for the upcoming Basho, HERE IS THE LINK. The deadline to play is Friday 8th of November at 11 AM (JST), 2 AM (UTC) To help you prepare your picks, here are the bouts for the upcoming Basho: Nr A History B 1 Onosato 2-3 Kotozakura 2 Hoshoryu 2-5 Oho 3 Roga - Takanosho 4 Atamifuji - Wakatakakage 5 Daieisho - Oshoma 6 Abi 6-7 Kirishima 7 Ura 8-5 Shodai 8 Midorifuji 3-4 Takayasu 9 Wakamotoharu 11-8 Tobizaru 10 Bushozan 3-2 Sadanoumi 11 Gonoyama 1-2 Endo 12 Meisei 5-3 Midorifuji 13 Chiyoshoma - Onokatsu 14 Hiradoumi 4-2[-1] Kotoshoho 15 Shonannoumi 1-1 Hokutofuji 16 Ryuden - Shishi 17 Mitakeumi 2-2 Churanoumi 18 Takerufuji - Tamawashi 19 Nishikifuji 5[-1]-8 Ichiyamamoto 20 Nishikigi 6-6 Takarafuji 21 Asakoryu 1-2 Tokihayate Although Terunofuji hasn't confirmed his absence, I've had my attention drawn to the fact that he hasn't competed in Kyushu for many years. Along with the lack of any sign he is ready to compete or interested in doing so, Midorifuji has become the lucky recipient of a second bout in this game. Please join us for 21 bout predictions - I give you roughly 8 days to do so. There's some interesting ones to think about in the list, and maybe a couple little 'tricks'! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 550 Posted November 2 Less than 6 days remain to please join us for Game 21 this basho! deadline at Friday 8th of November at 11 AM (JST), 2 AM (UTC), ENTER HERE Thanks to those who have signed up already: Tochinofuji Asset Furansumo Hidenotora Fashiriteta Athenayama Jogn Eatplaysumo Reminders go out to recent players: @Susanoo @Asapedroryu @rokudenashi Hisui @Karasukurai @Fujisan @Bunbukuchagama @Hakuhonofan Mizuma @Shatsume @Yarimotsu @Gusoyama Papayasu @Hakuryuho @WAKATAKE @Wamahada @Profomisakari @RaeucherLax @Benihana @chishafuwaku @shimodahito @ChickyStarr @Flohru @Suwihuto @Kujo @Andonishiki @Takanorappa grocerybird Fia @Andreas21 jeaunosato takoyakiyama gair @Hoshotakamoto hohofuji, king bo slice, polarkatsu, @Jimizakura kotowazasato @Achiyama All are welcome to ponder our bout selections and play. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 550 Posted November 5 Less than 3 days remain to please join us for Game 21 this basho! deadline at Friday 8th of November at 11 AM (JST), 2 AM (UTC), ENTER HERE Signups since last reminder: Shatsume Hisui Flohru Gusoyama Wamahada shimodahito RaeucherLax Andreas21 chishafuwaku ChickyStarr Profomisakari Rokudenashi Reminders go out to recent players: @Susanoo @Asapedroryu @Karasukurai @Fujisan @Bunbukuchagama @Hakuhonofan Mizuma @Yarimotsu Papayasu @Hakuryuho @WAKATAKE @Benihana @Suwihuto @Kujo @Andonishiki @Takanorappa grocerybird Fia jeaunosato takoyakiyama gair @Hoshotakamoto hohofuji, king bo slice, polarkatsu, @Jimizakura kotowazasato @Achiyama All are welcome to ponder our bout selections and play. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 550 Posted November 6 FINAL reminder: About 27 hours remain to join us for Game 21 this basho! deadline at Friday 8th of November at 11 AM (JST), 2 AM (UTC), ENTER HERE Signups since last reminder: (Welcome to new player Ippikiookami!) Susanoo Hakuhonofan Kotowazasato Asapedroryu Karasukurai Fia Hakuryuho Papayasu Ippikiōkami Takanorappa Yarimotsu Reminders go out to recent players: @Fujisan @Bunbukuchagama Mizuma @WAKATAKE @Benihana @Suwihuto @Kujo @Andonishiki grocerybird jeaunosato takoyakiyama gair @Hoshotakamoto hohofuji, king bo slice, polarkatsu, @Jimizakura @Achiyama 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 550 Posted November 8 Thanks to all players for joining Game 21 this basho. As the torikumi for day 1 is revealed, the entries are now closed. Here's the list of participants in tiebreaker 2 order: Player 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 Diff 1 Tochinofuji A A B B A B A A A B B B A A A A A A A A A 311 2 Asset B A B B A B A B B B A A A A A A B X B A A 300 3 Furansumo A A B B A A A B B B B A B A B A B B B B A 344 4 Hidenotora A A A B A A A B A A X A A A B B A A B B B 366 5 Fashiriteta A A B B A B A A A B A B B B A A B A B X B 314 6 Athenayama A A B B A B B B A B A B B A A A B A B A A 260 7 Jogn B B X A B B A X A A A A B A X A B B A A A 452 8 Eatplaysumo B B B B A B B B A B B A A A B A B A A A A 314 9 Shatsume B A B B A B A B A B A A A A B A A A B A B 278 10 Hisui A B B B A B A B X B B X A X A A X X X B A 398 11 Flohru A A B B A B A B X X A A B X A A X A X X A 347 12 Gusoyama B A A X A B B A A B B A B A A B A A B B A 372 13 Wamahada B A B B A B B B B B A A A A A A A A B A B 302 14 shimodahito A A B B A A B A A X A A B A A A A A A B B 362 15 RaeucherLax A A A B A B B B A A A A B A B A B A A A A 304 16 Andreas21 A A B B A B B A A B A B A A A A B A B A A 281 17 chishafuwaku A A B B A B A B A B A A B A A B B A B A A 258 18 ChickyStarr A A A A A A B B A A A A B B A A B A B B A 356 19 Profomisakari A A A B A B B B X B B B A A B B X A X A A 359 20 Rokudenashi B B A B A B A X A B A A A A A B B A B A B 333 21 Susanoo B A B B A B A B A B A A B X A A X X A A B 333 22 Hakuhonofan B B A B A B A A A A A A B A B B A A B A B 359 23 Kotowazasato A A B B A A B B A B B A B X B A B X B X B 355 24 Asapedroryu B A B A A B B B A A A B A X A B X A B A A 351 25 Karasukurai B B B B A B A B A A B A A A B A B A B A B 307 26 Fia A B B B A B A X X X A B A X A A X A X A B 391 27 Hakuryuho A A B B A B B B A B A A B A A B B A B A A 266 28 Papayasu A A A B B B B B A B B B A A A A B A B B A 326 29 Ippikiōkami B A A B A B A B A B A A B A B A A A B B B 305 30 Takanorappa A A B B A B A B A B A B B B A B B A B A A 285 31 Yarimotsu A A B A A B B B X B B B A A B B X A B X A 364 32 Bunbukuchagama A B B B A X A B A B A A A A B A B A B X B 319 33 Mizuma A B B A B B A B A A B B A B B A B A B B B 391 34 E9 A A A B A B A B A X B B B A A X X X X X A 388 35 Fujisan B A B B A A A B A A A A B B B A A A B A A 323 36 Benihana A A B B A B A B B A B B A B A A B A B A A 314 With just 49 X picks across the field (about 1.33 each) there was a lot of agreement between players who used none, and a lot of deviation for players who used many: MAX 452 Jogn MIN 258 chishafuwaku As usual the game is a balancing act for myself and I'm doing what I can to have X bouts be "likely" without being obvious - let's see how many we get this time around! Nr A History B A B X Day Result 1 Onosato 2-3 Kotozakura 23 13 0 . 2 Hoshoryu 2-5 Oho 27 9 0 . 3 Roga - Takanosho 10 25 1 . 4 Atamifuji - Wakatakakage 5 30 1 . 5 Daieisho - Oshoma 33 3 0 . 6 Abi 6-7 Kirishima 6 29 1 . 7 Ura 8-5 Shodai 22 14 0 . 8 Midorifuji 3-4 Takayasu 6 27 3 . 9 Wakamotoharu 11-8 Tobizaru 27 4 5 . 10 Bushozan 3-2 Sadanoumi 10 22 4 . 11 Gonoyama 1-2 Endo 22 13 1 . 12 Meisei 5-3 Midorifuji 22 13 1 . 13 Chiyoshoma - Onokatsu 18 18 0 . 14 Hiradoumi 4-2[-1] Kotoshoho 24 6 6 . 15 Shonannoumi 1-1 Hokutofuji 21 14 1 . 16 Ryuden - Shishi 25 10 1 . 17 Mitakeumi 2-2 Churanoumi 9 19 8 . 18 Takerufuji - Tamawashi 29 2 5 . 19 Nishikifuji 5[-1]-8 Ichiyamamoto 6 25 5 . 20 Nishikigi 6-6 Takarafuji 21 9 6 . 21 Asakoryu 1-2 Tokihayate 22 14 0 . Interestingly, the field is split on whether veteran Chiyoshoma can overcome Onokatsu. I'm somewhat surprised to see at least 2 supporters for each rikishi in each bout, so there's no freebies here! Bouts 17-20 (also 9 and 14) will be pivotal with some fairly one-sided selections and a sizable number of X picks. Thanks again for joining - I'm very happy with 36 participants - and welcome again to new players Ippikiookami and E9! Good luck to all! Over to @Profomisakari and enjoy the basho! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 8 (edited) Many thanks to Yarimotsu. I believe it is a very interesting bout selection. For 15 days we can track how well we were able to predict who would win the 21 fights. Whoever is leading in the rankings can hope to win the game. But in the end, correctly predicted X results can completely change the table. Many correct X tips bring a lot of points. But there have to be a lot of correct "X", not just any "X" tips. That means: Our game will only be decided at the end. Below I will take over Yarimotsu's blue table and enter there all daily bout results Nr A History B A B X Day Result 1 Onosato 2-3 Kotozakura 23 13 0 14 B 2 Hoshoryu 2-5 Oho 27 9 0 1 A 3 Roga - Takanosho 10 25 19 9 B 4 Atamifuji - Wakatakakage 5 30 1 X 5 Daieisho - Oshoma 33 3 0 13 A 6 Abi 6-7 Kirishima 6 29 1 3 A 7 Ura 8-5 Shodai 22 14 0 10 B 8 Midorifuji 3-4 Takayasu 6 27 3 5 A 9 Wakamotoharu 11-8 Tobizaru 27 4 5 12 A 10 Bushozan 3-2 Sadanoumi 10 22 4 13 B 11 Gonoyama 1-2 Endo 22 13 1 7 B 12 Meisei 5-3 Midorifuji 22 13 1 X 13 Chiyoshoma - Onokatsu 18 18 0 2 B 14 Hiradoumi 4-2[-1] Kotoshoho 24 6 6 13 A 15 Shonannoumi 1-1 Hokutofuji 21 14 1 9 A 16 Ryuden - Shishi 25 10 1 5 A 17 Mitakeumi 2-2 Churanoumi 9 19 8 X 18 Takerufuji - Tamawashi 29 2 5 15 A 19 Nishikifuji 5[-1]-8 Ichiyamamoto 6 25 5 X 20 Nishikigi 6-6 Takarafuji 21 9 6 X. 21 Asakoryu 1-2 Tokihayate 22 14 0 4 A I wish you all the best results (But it's a pity: only on can win) From the table we see: On day 6, 8 and 11 was no Game 21 bout. On the days 1 until 5, 7, 9, 10, 12, 14 and 15 was every time only one Game 21 bout. But on day 13 we get first time three such bouts Profomisakari Edited November 24 by Profomisakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 10 The players ranking after day 1. Today we had one game 21 bout. Hoshoryu beat Oho. 27 of the 36 players had him. The row of those 27 winners will be decided by the time of the vote. This is the first ranking: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Tochinofuji 1 9 2 Asset 1 9 3 Furansumo 1 9 4 Hidenotora 1 9 5 Fashiriteta 1 9 6 Athenayama 1 9 7 Shatsume 1 9 8 Flohru 1 9 9 Gusoyama 1 9 10 Wamahada 1 9 11 shimodahito 1 9 12 RaeucherLax 1 9 13 Andreas21 1 9 14 chishafuwaku 1 9 15 ChickyStarr 1 9 16 Profomisakari 1 9 17 Susanoo 1 9 18 Kotowazasato 1 9 19 Asapedroryu 1 9 20 Hakuryuho 1 9 21 Papayasu 1 9 22 Ippikiōkami 1 9 23 Takanorappa 1 9 24 Yarimotsu 1 9 25 E9 1 9 26 Fujisan 1 9 27 Benihana 1 9 28 Jogn 0 0 29 Eatplaysumo 0 0 30 Hisui 0 0 31 Rokudenashi 0 0 32 Hakuhonofan 0 0 33 Karasukurai 0 0 34 Fia 0 0 35 Bunbukuchagama 0 0 36 Mizuma 0 0 Tomorrow we'll have again one game 21 bout. Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 11 (edited) On day 2 we had again only one game 21 bout. Today Onokatsu (B) won against Chiyoshoma. 18 players voted for him the other 18 for the Chiyo. Now we still have a leaders Group of 16 players Rk Player Pts TB 1 Furansumo 2 27 2 Fashiriteta 2 27 3 Athenayama 2 27 4 Flohru 2 27 5 Gusoyama 2 27 6 shimodahito 2 27 7 RaeucherLax 2 27 8 chishafuwaku 2 27 9 ChickyStarr 2 27 10 Susanoo 2 27 11 Kotowazasato 2 27 12 Hakuryuho 2 27 13 Ippikiōkami 2 27 14 Takanorappa 2 27 15 E9 2 27 16 Fujisan 2 27 17 Jogn 1 18 18 Hakuhonofan 1 18 19 Tochinofuji 1 9 20 Asset 1 9 21 Hidenotora 1 9 22 Shatsume 1 9 23 Wamahada 1 9 24 Andreas21 1 9 25 Profomisakari 1 9 26 Asapedroryu 1 9 27 Papayasu 1 9 28 Yarimotsu 1 9 29 Benihana 1 9 30 Eatplaysumo 0 0 31 Hisui 0 0 32 Rokudenashi 0 0 33 Karasukurai 0 0 34 Fia 0 0 35 Bunbukuchagama 0 0 36 Mizuma 0 0 Tomorrow we have again one game 21 bout. Profomisakari Edited November 11 by Profomisakari 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 12 The players ranking after day 3 Also today we had only one game 21 bout. The favorite Kirishima lost to the underdog Abi. Only five players had the Abi. These 5 now form the top group in the row of the time of submitting their tips. The Ranking table: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Furansumo 3 57 2 shimodahito 3 57 3 ChickyStarr 3 57 4 Kotowazasato 3 57 5 Fujisan 3 57 6 Hidenotora 2 39 7 Fashiriteta 2 27 8 Athenayama 2 27 9 Flohru 2 27 10 Gusoyama 2 27 11 RaeucherLax 2 27 12 chishafuwaku 2 27 13 Susanoo 2 27 14 Hakuryuho 2 27 15 Ippikiōkami 2 27 16 Takanorappa 2 27 17 E9 2 27 18 Jogn 1 18 19 Hakuhonofan 1 18 20 Tochinofuji 1 9 21 Asset 1 9 22 Shatsume 1 9 23 Wamahada 1 9 24 Andreas21 1 9 25 Profomisakari 1 9 26 Asapedroryu 1 9 27 Papayasu 1 9 28 Yarimotsu 1 9 29 Benihana 1 9 30 Eatplaysumo 0 0 31 Hisui 0 0 32 Rokudenashi 0 0 33 Karasukurai 0 0 34 Fia 0 0 35 Bunbukuchagama 0 0 36 Mizuma 0 0 Tomorrow comes again one game 21 bout! Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 13 (edited) Players ranking day 4 On the 4th day of the KyuShu Basho (and also on day 5!) we again have exactly one game 21 bout. Now the top group only consists of 3 players (Furansumo, ChickyStarr and Fujisan). But just wait, there are still 11 days and a maximum of 15 bouts to go and almost everything can still change. This is the current ranking: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Furansumo 4 71 2 ChickyStarr 4 71 3 Fujisan 4 71 4 shimodahito 3 57 5 Kotowazasato 3 57 6 Athenayama 3 41 7 Flohru 3 41 8 Gusoyama 3 41 9 RaeucherLax 3 41 10 chishafuwaku 3 41 11 Hakuryuho 3 41 12 Takanorappa 3 41 13 E9 3 41 14 Hidenotora 2 39 15 Jogn 2 32 16 Fashiriteta 2 27 17 Susanoo 2 27 18 Ippikiōkami 2 27 19 Tochinofuji 2 23 20 Asset 2 23 21 Andreas21 2 23 22 Profomisakari 2 23 23 Asapedroryu 2 23 24 Papayasu 2 23 25 Yarimotsu 2 23 26 Benihana 2 23 27 Hakuhonofan 1 18 28 Eatplaysumo 1 14 29 Hisui 1 14 30 Shatsume 1 9 31 Wamahada 1 9 32 Rokudenashi 0 0 33 Karasukurai 0 0 34 Fia 0 0 35 Bunbukuchagama 0 0 36 Mizuma 0 0 Profomisakari Edited November 14 by Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 14 (edited) Players ranking after day 5 Also on day 5 we have again one game 21 bout. As ever we have three unbeaten 3 players: Furansumo, ChickyStarr and Fujisan. But just as ever we have 9 days and 16 bouts that still can bring good news. Rk Player Pts TB 1 Furansumo 5 82 2 ChickyStarr 5 82 3 Fujisan 5 82 4 shimodahito 4 68 5 Kotowazasato 4 68 6 Athenayama 4 52 7 Flohru 4 52 8 RaeucherLax 4 52 9 Jogn 3 43 10 Gusoyama 3 41 11 chishafuwaku 3 41 12 Hakuryuho 3 41 13 Takanorappa 3 41 14 E9 3 41 15 Fashiriteta 3 38 16 Susanoo 3 38 17 Ippikiōkami 3 38 18 Tochinofuji 3 34 19 Asset 3 34 20 Andreas21 3 34 21 Papayasu 3 34 22 Benihana 3 34 23 Hidenotora 2 39 24 Eatplaysumo 2 25 25 Hisui 2 25 26 Profomisakari 2 23 27 Asapedroryu 2 23 28 Yarimotsu 2 23 29 Shatsume 2 20 30 Wamahada 2 20 31 Hakuhonofan 1 18 32 Karasukurai 1 11 33 Fia 1 11 34 Bunbukuchagama 1 11 35 Mizuma 1 11 36 Rokudenashi 0 0 Tomorrow is the first day without game 21 bouts Profomisakari Edited November 14 by Profomisakari 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 15 Day 7 brings again one game 21 bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 16 (edited) Players ranking after day 7 Now we have first time a sole leader: Furansumo Rk Player Pts TB 1 Furansumo 6 105 2 Kotowazasato 5 91 3 ChickyStarr 5 82 4 Fujisan 5 82 5 shimodahito 4 68 6 Gusoyama 4 64 7 E9 4 64 8 Tochinofuji 4 57 9 Papayasu 4 57 10 Benihana 4 57 11 Athenayama 4 52 12 Flohru 4 52 13 RaeucherLax 4 52 14 Eatplaysumo 3 48 15 Hisui 3 48 16 Profomisakari 3 46 17 Yarimotsu 3 46 18 Jogn 3 43 19 chishafuwaku 3 41 20 Hakuryuho 3 41 21 Takanorappa 3 41 22 Fashiriteta 3 38 23 Susanoo 3 38 24 Ippikiōkami 3 38 25 Asset 3 34 26 Andreas21 3 34 27 Hidenotora 2 39 28 Karasukurai 2 34 29 Mizuma 2 34 30 Asapedroryu 2 23 31 Shatsume 2 20 32 Wamahada 2 20 33 Hakuhonofan 1 18 34 Fia 1 11 35 Bunbukuchagama 1 11 36 Rokudenashi 0 0 Profomisakari Edited November 18 by Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 18 (edited) Players ranking after day 9 Today is one bout: Roga vs. Takanosho Takanosho won. Furansumo had him and is as before the Sole leader. Rk Player Pts TB 1 Furansumo 7 116 2 Kotowazasato 6 102 3 Fujisan 6 93 4 ChickyStarr 5 82 5 shimodahito 5 79 6 Tochinofuji 5 68 7 Benihana 5 68 8 Athenayama 5 63 9 Flohru 5 63 10 Gusoyama 4 64 11 E9 4 64 12 Eatplaysumo 4 59 13 Hisui 4 59 14 Papayasu 4 57 15 Yarimotsu 4 57 16 RaeucherLax 4 52 17 chishafuwaku 4 52 18 Hakuryuho 4 52 19 Takanorappa 4 52 20 Fashiriteta 4 49 21 Susanoo 4 49 22 Asset 4 45 23 Andreas21 4 45 24 Profomisakari 3 46 25 Karasukurai 3 45 26 Mizuma 3 45 27 Jogn 3 43 28 Ippikiōkami 3 38 29 Asapedroryu 3 34 30 Shatsume 3 31 31 Wamahada 3 31 32 Hidenotora 2 39 33 Fia 2 22 34 Bunbukuchagama 2 22 35 Hakuhonofan 1 18 36 Rokudenashi 0 0 Tomorrow is again one bout of our game: Ura against Shodai Profomisakari Edited November 18 by Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 19 (edited) Players ranking day 10 Today we had one more time just one more time one game 21 bout. That's unusual. Only 8 game 21 bouts in 10 days! That's a negative record. 13 bouts have not yet taken place. There will be many X bouts at the end. That could lead to many changes in favor of the players with many X tips. Shodai beat Ura. Furansumo, who has been at the top of the ranking table since day one, didn't have him. So the newcomer Kotowazasato could catch up with him and even take the lead thanks to his better tiebreaker values. We are heading for an exciting finale. Here is the new ranking table: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Kotowazasato 7 124 2 Furansumo 7 116 3 ChickyStarr 6 104 4 shimodahito 6 101 5 Fujisan 6 93 6 Athenayama 6 85 7 Gusoyama 5 86 8 Eatplaysumo 5 81 9 Papayasu 5 79 10 Yarimotsu 5 79 11 RaeucherLax 5 74 12 Hakuryuho 5 74 13 Tochinofuji 5 68 14 Benihana 5 68 15 Andreas21 5 67 16 Flohru 5 63 17 Profomisakari 4 68 18 E9 4 64 19 Hisui 4 59 20 Asapedroryu 4 56 21 Wamahada 4 53 22 chishafuwaku 4 52 23 Takanorappa 4 52 24 Fashiriteta 4 49 25 Susanoo 4 49 26 Asset 4 45 27 Karasukurai 3 45 28 Mizuma 3 45 29 Jogn 3 43 30 Ippikiōkami 3 38 31 Shatsume 3 31 32 Hidenotora 2 39 33 Fia 2 22 34 Bunbukuchagama 2 22 35 Hakuhonofan 1 18 36 Rokudenashi 0 0 Surprised I am about Rukodenashi's Zero result. Until this time he was always one of the best players. I wish him to do a jump to better places. But we see here: It is a game - and the rikishi fight not always as we think! Tomorrow (day 11) is again now game 21 bout, but on day 12 comes again one such bout and on day 13 three !!! Profomisakari Edited November 21 by Profomisakari 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 21 (edited) Players ranking after day 12 Again we had one game 21 bout Wakamotoharu beat Tobizaru. From the two leading players had him Kotowazasato but Furansumo not. So we get the following ranking table: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Kotowazasato 8 133 2 Furansumo 7 116 3 ChickyStarr 7 113 4 shimodahito 7 110 5 Fujisan 7 102 6 Athenayama 7 94 7 Gusoyama 6 95 8 Eatplaysumo 6 90 9 Papayasu 6 88 10 RaeucherLax 6 83 11 Hakuryuho 6 83 12 Tochinofuji 6 77 13 Andreas21 6 76 14 Yarimotsu 5 79 15 E9 5 73 16 Benihana 5 68 17 Asapedroryu 5 65 18 Flohru 5 63 19 chishafuwaku 5 61 20 Takanorappa 5 61 21 Fashiriteta 5 58 22 Susanoo 5 58 23 Profomisakari 4 68 24 Hisui 4 59 25 Karasukurai 4 54 26 Mizuma 4 54 27 Wamahada 4 53 28 Jogn 4 52 29 Ippikiōkami 4 47 30 Asset 4 45 31 Shatsume 4 40 32 Hidenotora 3 48 33 Bunbukuchagama 3 31 34 Hakuhonofan 2 27 35 Fia 2 22 36 Rokudenashi 1 9 Tomorrow we'll get first time 3 game 1 bouts Profomisakari Edited November 21 by Profomisakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 22 (edited) Players ranking after day 13 Today we had first time three game 21 bouts. In all 3 cases won the favorite. Here is the new ranking: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Kotowazasato 10 150 2 Furansumo 10 145 3 Athenayama 10 123 4 shimodahito 9 125 5 Gusoyama 9 124 6 Eatplaysumo 9 119 7 Hakuryuho 9 112 8 Tochinofuji 9 106 9 Andreas21 9 105 10 ChickyStarr 8 116 11 Papayasu 8 114 12 Yarimotsu 8 108 13 Fujisan 8 105 14 RaeucherLax 8 98 15 chishafuwaku 8 90 16 Profomisakari 7 97 17 E9 7 88 18 Wamahada 7 82 19 Takanorappa 7 78 20 Ippikiōkami 7 76 21 Fashiriteta 7 75 22 Susanoo 7 75 23 Asset 7 74 24 Shatsume 7 69 25 Hisui 6 76 26 Benihana 6 71 27 Karasukurai 6 69 28 Asapedroryu 6 68 29 Flohru 6 66 30 Bunbukuchagama 6 60 31 Jogn 5 64 32 Hidenotora 5 63 33 Mizuma 4 54 34 Hakuhonofan 4 42 35 Rokudenashi 4 38 36 Fia 3 25 As we see: Kotowazasato leads as before, but only as best of a 3 players group. And I think all until place 24 have still good chances to winn the Yusho. Tomorrow on day 14 we get on game 21 bout Profomisakari Edited November 24 by Profomisakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 24 Players ranking after the bouts of day 14 on day 14 we had only one game 21 bout. Kotozsakura won against Onosato. Kotowazasato had him not, but he holded his top place as first of a five players leading group. Rk Player Pts TB 1 Kotowazasato 10 150 2 Gusoyama 10 147 3 Furansumo 10 145 4 Eatplaysumo 10 142 5 Athenayama 10 123 6 Fujisan 9 128 7 shimodahito 9 125 8 Hakuryuho 9 112 9 Tochinofuji 9 106 10 Andreas21 9 105 11 ChickyStarr 8 116 12 Papayasu 8 114 13 Yarimotsu 8 108 14 Wamahada 8 105 15 Ippikiōkami 8 99 16 RaeucherLax 8 98 17 Susanoo 8 98 18 Asset 8 97 19 Shatsume 8 92 20 chishafuwaku 8 90 21 Profomisakari 7 97 22 Karasukurai 7 92 23 Asapedroryu 7 91 24 E9 7 88 25 Takanorappa 7 78 26 Fashiriteta 7 75 27 Jogn 6 87 28 Hisui 6 76 29 Benihana 6 71 30 Flohru 6 66 31 Bunbukuchagama 6 60 32 Hakuhonofan 5 65 33 Hidenotora 5 63 34 Rokudenashi 5 61 35 Mizuma 4 54 36 Fia 3 25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 24 (edited) Players ranking after the bouts of day 15 On day 15 was among the bouts again only one game 21 bout. Takerufuji beat the senior of the Makuuchi Rikishi, Tamawashi. Now is the leader Gusoyama with 11 points as best in a three players Rk Player Pts TB 1 Gusoyama 11 154 2 Eatplaysumo 11 149 3 Athenayama 11 130 4 Kotowazasato 10 150 5 Furansumo 10 145 6 Fujisan 10 135 7 shimodahito 10 132 8 Hakuryuho 10 119 9 Tochinofuji 10 113 10 Andreas21 10 112 11 ChickyStarr 9 123 12 Papayasu 9 121 13 Yarimotsu 9 115 14 Wamahada 9 112 15 Ippikiōkami 9 106 16 RaeucherLax 9 105 17 Shatsume 9 99 18 chishafuwaku 9 97 19 Profomisakari 8 104 20 Karasukurai 8 99 21 Susanoo 8 98 22 Asapedroryu 8 98 23 Asset 8 97 24 Takanorappa 8 85 25 Fashiriteta 8 82 26 E9 7 88 27 Benihana 7 78 28 Flohru 7 73 29 Bunbukuchagama 7 67 30 Jogn 6 87 31 Hisui 6 76 32 Hakuhonofan 6 72 33 Hidenotora 6 70 34 Rokudenashi 6 68 35 Mizuma 5 61 36 Fia 4 32 Edited November 24 by Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 550 Posted November 24 Day 5, Midorifuji beat Takayasu Day 9, Shonannoumi beat Hokutofuji @Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 24 (edited) And as last: Final players ranking including all X points This basho we had 7 X bouts, more as most past bashos, and many players tried to tip, that some bouts do not take place. This had a great influence to th results and we have - including the correct X pics - many changes in the players result. This is the final players ranking: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Gusoyama 14 234 2 shimodahito 12 177 3 Tochinofuji 12 158 4 Andreas21 12 157 5 Athenayama 12 145 6 E9 11 192 7 Kotowazasato 11 180 8 Flohru 11 177 9 Yarimotsu 11 173 10 Fashiriteta 11 157 11 Eatplaysumo 11 149 12 Hakuryuho 11 134 13 Hisui 10 185 14 Profomisakari 10 163 15 Furansumo 10 145 16 Susanoo 10 141 17 Asapedroryu 10 141 18 ChickyStarr 10 138 19 Papayasu 10 136 20 Fujisan 10 135 21 Wamahada 10 127 22 chishafuwaku 10 112 23 Asset 9 112 24 Ippikiōkami 9 106 25 RaeucherLax 9 105 26 Takanorappa 9 100 27 Shatsume 9 99 28 Karasukurai 8 99 29 Bunbukuchagama 8 97 30 Benihana 8 93 31 Fia 7 106 32 Hakuhonofan 7 102 33 Rokudenashi 7 83 34 Jogn 6 87 35 Hidenotora 6 70 36 Mizuma 5 61 Edited December 1 by Profomisakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 550 Posted November 24 (edited) I get the following results from the automated tables: 1. Onosato (A) or Kotozakura (B) B 2. Hoshoryu (A) or Oho (B) A 3. Roga (A) or Takanosho (B) B 4. Atamifuji (A) or Wakatakakage (B) X 5. Daieisho (A) or Oshoma (B) A 6. Abi (A) or Kirishima (B) A 7. Ura (A) or Shodai (B) B 8. Midorifuji (A) or Takayasu (B) A 9. Wakamotoharu (A) or Tobizaru (B) A 10. Bushozan (A) or Sadanoumi (B) B 11. Gonoyama (A) or Endo (B) B 12. Meisei (A) or Midorifuji (B) X 13. Chiyoshoma (A) or Onokatsu (B) B 14. Hiradoumi (A) or Kotoshoho (B) A 15. Shonannoumi (A) or Hokutofuji (B) A 16. Ryuden (A) or Shishi (B) A 17. Mitakeumi (A) or Churanoumi (B) X 18. Takerufuji (A) or Tamawashi (B) A 19. Nishikifuji (A) or Ichiyamamoto (B) X 20. Nishikigi (A) or Takarafuji (B) X 21. Asakoryu (A) or Tokihayate (B) A Rk Player Pts TB 1 Gusoyama 14 234 2 shimodahito 12 177 3 Tochinofuji 12 158 4 Andreas21 12 157 5 Athenayama 12 145 6 E9 11 192 7 Kotowazasato 11 180 8 Flohru 11 177 9 Yarimotsu 11 173 10 Fashiriteta 11 157 11 Eatplaysumo 11 149 12 Hakuryuho 11 134 13 Hisui 10 185 14 Profomisakari 10 163 15 Furansumo 10 145 16 Susanoo 10 141 17 Asapedroryu 10 141 18 ChickyStarr 10 138 19 Papayasu 10 136 20 Fujisan 10 135 21 Wamahada 10 127 22 chishafuwaku 10 112 23 Asset 9 112 24 Ippikiōkami 9 106 25 RaeucherLax 9 105 26 Takanorappa 9 100 27 Shatsume 9 99 28 Karasukurai 8 99 29 Bunbukuchagama 8 97 30 Benihana 8 93 31 Fia 7 106 32 Hakuhonofan 7 102 33 Rokudenashi 7 83 34 Jogn 6 87 35 Hidenotora 6 70 36 Mizuma 5 61 Congratulations to @Gusoyama! Thanks to all players, please join us again next basho. I may have to work something out with @Profomisakari as I will not have my usual computer access between Christmas and the basho's start. Edited November 24 by Yarimotsu fixed bout 15 result Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 24 (edited) Now I see Yarimotsu's note that two bouts took place that I had listed as X. Dear Yari-san! First of all, thank you for saving the evaluation. This enabled me to quickly correct the final result and I will attach it here at the end. But this is the help that I need from you for the evaluation as soon as possible. I will now only correct the final result, not all the intermediate results. Anyone who is rated too highly in the intermediate results should be happy. If it is the other way around, I apologize. But please Yarimotsu, help me as soon as possible so that I can avoid such mistakes in time! This is the corrected Final ranking, I hope now errorless: Rk Player Pts TB 1 Gusoyama 14 234 2 shimodahito 12 177 3 Tochinofuji 12 158 4 Andreas21 12 157 5 Athenayama 12 145 6 E9 11 192 7 Kotowazasato 11 180 8 Flohru 11 177 9 Yarimotsu 11 173 10 Fashiriteta 11 157 11 Eatplaysumo 11 149 12 Hakuryuho 11 134 13 Hisui 10 185 14 Profomisakari 10 163 15 Furansumo 10 145 16 Susanoo 10 141 17 Asapedroryu 10 141 18 ChickyStarr 10 138 19 Papayasu 10 136 20 Fujisan 10 135 21 Wamahada 10 127 22 chishafuwaku 10 112 23 Asset 9 112 24 Ippikiōkami 9 106 25 RaeucherLax 9 105 26 Takanorappa 9 100 27 Shatsume 9 99 28 Karasukurai 8 99 29 Bunbukuchagama 8 97 30 Benihana 8 93 31 Fia 7 106 32 Hakuhonofan 7 102 33 Rokudenashi 7 83 34 Jogn 6 87 35 Hidenotora 6 70 36 Mizuma 5 61 Great Congratulation to the winner Gusoyama and the other well placed players! Many thanks to all players for participaon. Yarimotsu many thanks for the hint to the missing bouts, but also to the bout selection. Getting a game 21 bout almost every day is a very good distribution. You probably won't achieve that for every basho. But congratulations on this selection! In Januar we should start a new game 21. You all are invited. But I will be unavailable for a few days. Yarimotsu, can you help? . Profomisaakari Edited November 29 by Profomisakari 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 848 Posted November 24 1 hour ago, Yarimotsu said: 15. Shonannoumi (A) or Hokutofuji (B) B It must be A! Profo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 550 Posted November 24 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Profomisakari said: It must be A! Profo Thank you, I have changed it. Hopefully we have it right now! 52 minutes ago, Profomisakari said: In Januar we should sta a new game 21. You all are invited. But I will be unavailable for a few days. Yarimotsu, can you help? . I will be available for the day-to-day during the basho and I can pick that up. However, if possible I will ask you to make the bout selections instead. I will be busy before the basho. I can set up the post here and make the form for submitting guesses, and do reminders, but the spreadsheet work is more difficult. Edited November 24 by Yarimotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
