Kaninoyama 1,777 Posted Monday at 11:19 (edited) It's official. Committee vote was unanimous. Hoshoryu is our newest Yokozuna. Congrats to Hoshoryu. May you have a fruitful career at sumo's highest rank with plenty of yusho, minimal kyujo, and an outpouring of hinkaku. Edited Monday at 11:24 by Kaninoyama 18 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Usagi 35 Posted Monday at 11:49 I hoped, they wouldn't. AvJun-Yusho and a 12:3 are weak. But the need, to present a Yokozuna was to big, I guess. 3 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terunoshoryu 11 Posted Monday at 12:01 Congratz, I hoped for double promotion, but nevertheless completely deserved. May his reign will last long! please, do not make sumo boring as Hakuho did with his unsurpassable domination! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desashoryu 1 Posted Monday at 12:02 The King is dead. Long live the King! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankegami 537 Posted Monday at 12:23 As I just posted in the other topic, Hoshoryu is promoted with the same record of Wakanohana I, Kitanofuji ,and Hokutoumi, and indirectly also of Kashiwado and Tamanoumi. Those are not really bad comparisons for him. Although I hope no one is expecting for him to be the next Dai-Yokozuna, I'm positive he can become a respectable holder of the rank. I sincerely wish him some five years of good results before the thirties catch up with him as well. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junsan 191 Posted Monday at 12:29 Omedeto! Hoping he puts on some more weight by Haru too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,771 Posted Monday at 13:17 42 minutes ago, Hankegami said: Although I hope no one is expecting for him to be the next Dai-Yokozuna, I'm positive he can become a respectable holder of the rank. I sincerely wish him some five years of good results before the thirties catch up with him as well. Two yusho per year for the next four years seems to me like it should be well within the reach of a fit 25yr-old yokozuna, and if he stays fit (which should be a little easier now he can sit tournaments out) he could keep going to his mid-thirties. Of course, that would mean he has to greatly improve from his current hit rate of a yusho every 18 months, but he does have time on his side. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shikona 148 Posted Monday at 13:27 I believe he has a good disposition and appreciation of the position. I believe he works hard in practice and has shown the ability to learn and adapt. He is older compared to the fellows who racked up 20 yusho, but I think he should be able to collect more than 10 yusho and be a good example for other wrestlers, so I look forward to his reign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankegami 537 Posted Monday at 14:01 14 minutes ago, Shikona said: I believe he has a good disposition and appreciation of the position. I believe he works hard in practice and has shown the ability to learn and adapt. He is older compared to the fellows who racked up 20 yusho, but I think he should be able to collect more than 10 yusho and be a good example for other wrestlers, so I look forward to his reign. Chiyonofuji being promoted at 26 y 2 m wants a word with you, preferably through a Medium. He's actually the prime example of Yokozuna doing big at 30+, and certainly the guy in @RabidJohn's mind in his previous post. About that, I also wish Hoshoryu a long, healthy career, but in most cases rikishi begin to slow down after they hit 30, so I was just being prudent there. For a general discussion about the age of most Yokozuna at promotion, I found this post on reddit. Also, keep i mind that before 1961 (Taiho and Kashiwado), a Yokozuna was expected to have a certain age, which skews the chart a bit. At 25 y 8 m, Hoshoryu falls in line with the age of promotion of Onokuni (25), Chiyonofuji (26), Wakanohana II (25), Wajima (25), Tamanoumi (26), Tochinoumi (26), Chiyonoyama (25 but denied promotion at 24), Futabayama (25), Musashiyama (26), Tochigiyama (26), Onishiki (26), and Umegatani II (26), Hokutoumi was slightly younger (24), but still out of the 21-23 bracket of most "young and successful" Yokozuna. Mixed bag of names, so feel free to pick your favorite prospect. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Shatterhand is dead 29 Posted Monday at 15:01 3 hours ago, Kaninoyama said: It's official. Committee vote was unanimous. Hoshoryu is our newest Yokozuna. "Ozeki Toyonoryu recommended for Yokozuna position by the Sumo Yokozuna Deliberation Committee+ what is this Toyonoryu? Would it be his new shikona or is it just another bug in Google translation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morning 78 Posted Monday at 15:11 Google issue. The kanji are the same as before. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 989 Posted Monday at 15:11 9 minutes ago, Old Shatterhand is dead said: what is this Toyonoryu? Would it be his new shikona or is it just another bug in Google translation? You shouldn't ever rely on automated translations for shikona, particularly if it's kanji. 48% of the time you get literal translations that might not even be right in context, 48% of the time they misread the kanji, 4% chance they're right. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terunoshoryu 11 Posted Monday at 15:13 9 minutes ago, Old Shatterhand is dead said: "Ozeki Toyonoryu recommended for Yokozuna position by the Sumo Yokozuna Deliberation Committee+ what is this Toyonoryu? Would it be his new shikona or is it just another bug in Google translation? Its a bug in google translation... I had the same clue.. now I know. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 989 Posted Monday at 15:19 (edited) I promise this is the only offtopic post I'll make here. Soo out of that bunch, it got Kusano, Miyagi, Otsuji, Tochimaru, Matsui, Ishizaki and Chiyomaru right. Most of those are their real surnames (all except Tochimaru and Chiyomaru) so they're way more likely to be translated correctly. Still, that's better than 4%! Shoutout to ms11e Heavy Drinker. Edited Monday at 15:21 by Koorifuu 2 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saburo 18 Posted Monday at 16:50 Unryu-gata, PLEASE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themistyseas 242 Posted Monday at 17:20 Very curious who the second attendant will be for the dohyo-iri. The first one obviously will be Meisei, but the stable doesn't have any others in the top division (and probably won't anytime soon). Surprisingly, the raft of retirements means there actually aren't many candidates in the huge ichimon: Hiradoumi seems a good candidate to me just based on his more or less consistent placement in the top half of the division, or Kinbozan in recognition of the fact he pushed him hardest to win the yusho and gain promotion? Gonoyama would be a hilarious pick given the niramiai from Hoshoryu down the last couple years (although I believe the two have a connection from their amateur days?) Ura is beloved by all although as a figure of fun, might not be the guy you want when you're looking serious doing a dohyo-iri? Sadanoumi, Churanoumi, Roga, Shishi seem unlikely due to their placement at the low end of the division, and it's hard to envision Mitakeumi doing that. Am I forgetting anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hakutorizakura 628 Posted Monday at 17:23 Oh wow, but congrats to Hosh!! Make your Uncle proud! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,408 Posted Monday at 17:37 12 minutes ago, themistyseas said: The first one obviously will be Meisei, but the stable doesn't have any others in the top division (and probably won't anytime soon). Surprisingly, the raft of retirements means there actually aren't many candidates in the huge ichimon: Hiradoumi seems the best pick, till Kiryuko manages to rise to makuuchi. But Shishi won't remain at the lower end of the banzuke for long, I expect him to reach sanyaku next year, and not go higher (Aonishiki this year and ozeki next year) - he would be an interesting choice for the dohyo-iri 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,960 Posted Monday at 18:50 Hiradoumi . . . wasn't he the guy who effectively ended Hoshoryu's tsunatori? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shikona 148 Posted Tuesday at 03:04 8 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: Hiradoumi . . . wasn't he the guy who effectively ended Hoshoryu's tsunatori? Keep your friends close and your rivals closer. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shikona 148 Posted Tuesday at 03:09 13 hours ago, Hankegami said: Chiyonofuji being promoted at 26 y 2 m wants a word with you, preferably through a Medium. He's actually the prime example of Yokozuna doing big at 30+, and certainly the guy in @RabidJohn's mind in his previous post. About that, I also wish Hoshoryu a long, healthy career, but in most cases rikishi begin to slow down after they hit 30, so I was just being prudent there. For a general discussion about the age of most Yokozuna at promotion, I found this post on reddit. Also, keep i mind that before 1961 (Taiho and Kashiwado), a Yokozuna was expected to have a certain age, which skews the chart a bit. At 25 y 8 m, Hoshoryu falls in line with the age of promotion of Onokuni (25), Chiyonofuji (26), Wakanohana II (25), Wajima (25), Tamanoumi (26), Tochinoumi (26), Chiyonoyama (25 but denied promotion at 24), Futabayama (25), Musashiyama (26), Tochigiyama (26), Onishiki (26), and Umegatani II (26), Hokutoumi was slightly younger (24), but still out of the 21-23 bracket of most "young and successful" Yokozuna. Mixed bag of names, so feel free to pick your favorite prospect. Chiyonofuji's record probably more impressive even than Hakuho, given the late start. I was thinking Hak, also Asashoryu and Takanohana in making my remark. Didn't want to set the expectation too high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigKahunaMan 4 Posted Tuesday at 04:16 (edited) Saw a chart earlier on the debut records of every yokozuna in the 6-basho era and Chiyonofuji started with a 1-2-12, so if the Nephew bombs out in March he can always say he's in good company. Edited Tuesday at 04:16 by BigKahunaMan 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 715 Posted Tuesday at 04:48 16 hours ago, Terunoshoryu said: please, do not make sumo boring as Hakuho did with his unsurpassable domination! We are safe, don't worry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yokozuna Hattorizakura 153 Posted Tuesday at 07:15 Apologies for the rant, but count me among those not happy at all about this promotion. A jun yusho and a lucky come from behind yusho is a very weak case. Takakeisho was snubbed despite multiple superior performances, including a D-Y. he might still be here if he had the ability to rest. And it had to happen to the one guy i can't stand, who also received a weak ozeki promotion below the 33 win standard after a stolen yusho from a missed call. He really only met the 33 win criteria after this basho. Honestly, between this, Takakeisho and Terunofuji's retirement, and pretty much the near complete death of all the recap channels, I think I'm done with sumo for now. Bye, it's been fun. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,408 Posted Tuesday at 09:48 (edited) Today as usual is the day to ask about the acceptance phrase - Hoshoryu of course didn't tell. "Look forward to it!" o o o o o o o o o o o Edited Tuesday at 20:28 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
