Haru 2025 discussion (results)

[Benihana 1,936]

33 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Alas not. He came equal third, so no jun-yusho. He does get a kanto-sho though.

Yes, you're right. But since we had a playoff and both will have 12-3 on their score card...let's say it's a gin-jun-yusho ;)

[Katooshu 3,312]

Was cool to see former Masutoo giving out one of the yusho awards on behalf of Hungary! I think the Friendship Award? I didn't recognize him at first.

Edited Sunday at 09:41 by Katooshu

[Kujo 123]

You have to wonder what's wrong with Abi mentally (I'm being polite). How do you henka a yusho contender on senshuraku when you have a makekoshi? It's not like he was a sekiwake trying to stay at komusubi. I'm glad that henka wasn't what did in Takayasu this time. 

[RabidJohn 1,849]

As a 35yr-old former ozeki with a 20yr ozumo career, 14 in makuuchi, and now 3 makuuchi yusho-doten to his name, I reckon it's fantastic that Takayasu can show he's still relevant.

But I'm glad he didn't win.

I said earlier in the basho that I thought a Takayasu yusho would be pointless, but that's a little unfair. What I meant is that it's not going to lead to anything at his age, whereas a 3rd Onosato yusho is the start of another tsuna run. I'd have preferred something a bit stronger, but here we are. 

Nishonoseki now needs to control the celebrations. We don't want another yusho followed by a 9-6.

Congratulations also to the Aonishiki flag wavers. You were right: he's definitely worth keeping an eye on.

Edited Sunday at 12:25 by RabidJohn

[Sue 515]

Dear red shirt guy: walking in front of people to take your masu seat DURING a match (Ryuden/Oshoma)? Seriously?

Learn better manners, or don't sit in the masu boxes. (Or both.)

Edited Sunday at 11:25 by Sue

[Sue 515]

2 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Death, taxes and Takayasu choking.

The answer to the question "how many times can Takayasu choke in a single basho?" is always "one more than he already has."

[Akinomaki 40,701]

First ever sansho for a rikishi from Okinawa o

Generally a good basho for them - Miyagi goes to juryo, Kayo to makuuchi with the results https://ryukyushimpo.jp/news/sports/entry-4080355.html - a  good basho for Nakamura-beya: Miyagi the next sekitori after Kayo

Bad basho for Aomori - Takarafuji and Nishikifuji drop down, Takerufuji has to keep the makuuchi streak alive

[Gospodin 219]

3 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Death, taxes and Takayasu choking.

Takayausu didn´t choke.Choking is a late string of unexpected losses.

At the end he lost against a clearly superior opponent. No problem with that.

[Gospodin 219]

Tobizaru - Ura looked more like bokh than sumo.

[Benihana 1,936]

Asanoyama is collecting (i think) an one of a kind sequenze of jun/yusho here.

Start from Sd100TD: Y Makushita ++> Y Makuuchi = J Makuuchi = J Makuuchi = J Makuuchi ---> Y Sandanme ++> Y Juryo +> J Makuuchi ---> Y Sandanme. That Sd21 yusho will send him to Ms15-17. I hope the sequence will continue only upwards from now on and for some more years.

Edited Sunday at 15:16 by Benihana

[dingo 1,280]

Congratulations to Onosato!  A worthy ozeki yusho and start of a tsuna run is all he could've wanted this basho. Getting one yusho is simple (for him), now getting two in a row is the real challenge. But maybe he won't have to yusho if the Kyokai is feeling generous...

Takayasu unfortunately misses out once again. Couldn't believe Abi went for the henka again, is he a man of tradition or something? In any case Takayasu had learned and was well prepared. As was mentioned, yesterday's loss to Churanoumi was the stumbling point this time and he knows it well. On senshuraku he did everything the could but Onosato was not going to lose again. It's sad but at least for me it was totally unexpected to even see him in the yusho race. I actually tried to break the jinx by not mentioning him at all for the entire basho and it almost worked... I guess next time I can't even think about him. Now that would be a challenge.

A few other random thoughts -- Takerufuji hasn't shown the explosive power this basho that got his a yusho a year ago. Of course he's had the injury inbetween and 9 wins is still very good but either he is slowing down or not yet adjusted to the joi level. Either way it'll be interesting to see what he can do next basho. Oho was outwrestled by Aonishiki fair and square and has to unfortunately vacate sanyaku for others. With the joi beckoning, let's see how Aonishiki will handle the stronger opposition and pressure. Oho will have a change to revenge his loss already next basho.

In the end a great basho, maybe the yokozuna kyujo made it even more interesting. Hoshoryu will want to be back with a vengeance next time so lots of excitement ahead.

[RabidJohn 1,849]

42 minutes ago, Gospodin said:

Tobizaru - Ura looked more like bokh than sumo.

It was a peculiar bout, but also one I really enjoyed.

I've been pondering this for a while now... Both of them have this ability to make their opponent suddenly retreat like they're trying to avoid getting their ribs tickled, but Ura is a master of retreating and resetting against the tawara.

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Re: no sansho for Tamawashi. 10 wins was a superb performance from the oldest rikishi in the division, for sure, but he's a two-time yusho winner so the standard has to be higher for him.

[Gospodin 219]

37 minutes ago, dingo said:

Hoshoryu will want to be back with a vengeance next time so lots of excitement ahead.

Perhaps studying a sample of mugshots to change his niramiai from funny to threatening might also help 

[Ryoshishokunin 315]

5 hours ago, Benihana said:

I'll eat my hat (made of steaks) if Onosato will not be promoted to Yokozuna after Natsu 25 (barring injury).

I'd be more interested in seeing you wear it.

[Kotomiyama 174]

I was very nervous in the moments leading to the Playoff. I would have loved a Takayasu yusho, it might have been a perfect ending for his career. I can't help but like the guy. Probably his destiny,  like a lot of sportsmen before him, is to be an eternal second. I only hope that he will come to terms with his fate and look back to his career proudly.

Happy also with Onosato, he has the tsuna within reach.

[Asashosakari 19,589]

We've just observed the first time since Kyushu 2002 - Haru 2003 that three consecutive yusho have been won by ozeki. With three different ozeki it last happened Kyushu 1997 - Haru 1998.

[Yamanashi 3,887]

5 hours ago, Gospodin said:

Tobizaru - Ura looked more like bokh than sumo.

That, or ring-around-the-rosie.

[Reonito 1,504]

5 hours ago, dingo said:

Congratulations to Onosato!  A worthy ozeki yusho and start of a tsuna run is all he could've wanted this basho. Getting one yusho is simple (for him), now getting two in a row is the real challenge. But maybe he won't have to yusho if the Kyokai is feeling generous...

I think it's a yusho or 14 wins (and kinda hard to see how a 14-1 these days won't be a yusho).

[Octofuji 368]

Quote from Takayasu: I'd be lying if I said I had no regrets

[Octofuji 368]

Takayasu sadness aside, it was a great day of sumo. Nice to see another kirikaeshi from Aonishiki, it's now his joint fourth most common kimarite (admittedly still a small sample).

Edited Sunday at 22:01 by Octofuji

[Sakura 1,495]

7 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

We've just observed the first time since Kyushu 2002 - Haru 2003 that three consecutive yusho have been won by ozeki. With three different ozeki it last happened Kyushu 1997 - Haru 1998.

We'e thinking similarly recently. When Hoshoryu went kyujo I said to myself that I needed to update my palindromic post and I can here today to talk about the three Ozeki wins in a row.

[Morty 1,504]

6 hours ago, Reonito said:

I think it's a yusho or 14 wins (and kinda hard to see how a 14-1 these days won't be a yusho).

I respectfully disagree. They won't be that tough on him. Hoshoryu's last year went 11-4J, 10-5, 9-4-2, 8-7, 13-2J, 12-3Y and they gave him the rope on that relatively weak run. In contrast Onosato's last year goes 12-3Y, 9-6, 13-2Y, 9-6, 10-5, 12-3Y. He's got three yushos in a12 month span which flattens Hoshoryu's recent record, who, don't forget, also just went Kyujo on his first Yok basho, so might have been the wrong guy to promote. They can't be harder on Onosato than on Hoshoryu, so I reckon a 13-2J will get him over the line. Hell even a 12-3J may be enough based on his last year's performance. Now let's see if he can do it.

Edited yesterday at 00:48 by Morty

[Kishinoyama 596]

5 minutes ago, Morty said:

..... Hell even a 12-3J may be enough based on his last year's performance. Now let's see if he can do it.

I can't see how Onosato wouldn't get promoted with a 12-3J. He would still have one more win over the last three tournaments than Hoshoryu did.

[Reonito 1,504]

1 minute ago, Kishinoyama said:

I can't see how Onosato wouldn't get promoted with a 12-3J. He would still have one more win over the last three tournaments than Hoshoryu did.

Well, it's usually the last two tournaments that count, unless you're Kisenosato ... and no one's been promoted with 24 wins over 2 basho since Asashio in 1959.

[Bunbukuchagama 765]

14 hours ago, Gospodin said:

Takayausu didn´t choke.Choking is a late string of unexpected losses.

At the end he lost against a clearly superior opponent. No problem with that.

He lost the yusho on Day 14 against Churanoumi. Was that a clearly superior opponent?