Nishonoseki Beya Drinking Party Scandal

[Kaninoyama 1,797]

I'll put this here because not sure if it warrants its own thread at this time [mod] it does now [/mod], but the Daily Shincho is reporting another series of excessive & underage drinking and power harassment episodes at Nishonoseki-beya. This time there is video evidence (including graphic screenshots in the linked article), and participants included Tomokaze, since departed for Nakamura-beya, as well as an underage hairdresser. 

A more-detailed follow-up article is due out tomorrow, which will detail the extent to which discipline has broken down at the stable and call into question Nishonoseki's ability to properly run a heya. 

 

 

Edited February 20 by Jakusotsu

[Kaitetsu 294]

30 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said:

underage hairdresser.

Hmm, Tokoake (Tokokasumi) made his debut in May 2024, branched out with Nakamura and retired in September, wouldnt be surprised if that was him.

[Koorifuu 1,003]

7 minutes ago, Kaitetsu said:

Hmm, Tokoake (Tokokasumi) made his debut in May 2024, branched out with Nakamura and retired in September, wouldnt be surprised if that was him.

The article says those recordings are from around Kyushu 2022.

[Bunbukuchagama 732]

1 hour ago, Koorifuu said:

The article says those recordings are from around Kyushu 2022.

So, Tomokaze wasn't a sekitori at that moment.

[Andreas21 184]

The article calls the voluntarily submissive victim (as I was interpreting the described incident) "Takamasa (22)" or "Takamichi" .

It is 貴正道

This should suffice to find him - for someone with more Kanji expertise.

[Koorifuu 1,003]

32 minutes ago, Andreas21 said:

The article calls the voluntarily submissive victim (as I was interpreting the described incident) "Takamasa (22)" or "Takamichi" .

It is 貴正道

This should suffice to find him - for someone with more Kanji expertise.

貴正道 is Takaseido

Edited February 19 by Koorifuu

[Xiongmao 13]

It's not pleasant. Reminds me of a normal night out in England back in the day.

Use that old translate function for the gory details.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c68fc7f917320e235a606835eff5b47f94d5e5a2?source=sns&dv=pc&mid=other&date=20250219&ctg=spo&bt=tw_up

[Seiyashi 4,098]

Nishonoseki in trouble for drinking again? 

[Yarimotsu 584]

Based on the date in the article of Kyushu 2022, it seems like this is really around the time of the initial allegation - now with more details. Certainly based on the pictures provided, it does look like Tomokaze and Kirinryu are doing something unspeakable to a very drunk stablemate. I don't know about others' experience of wild youth days and alcohol, but there's drinking parties and then there's events like this... I certainly wouldn't want that to be my home and those to be the actions of my senpai as a sumo wrestler.

[Xiongmao 13]

Yes, sorry, I should have clarified...the party was in 2022 but it looks like video evidence has surfaced now and is making the rounds.

[Muhomatsu 245]

The same sort of "extend and pretend" for stables with violence scandals.  They all try the "cover it up and pretend nothing happened" method - until the evidence comes out.  We know there was an investigation into Ōnosato and drinking with not-yet-of age disciples - let's see if during this investigation they lied about other drinking events at the stable. Takaseidō would have been 20 by Kyushu 2022 - so above the legal limit in Japan at the time of the incident.

The Kyokai has come down hard on those that lied about incidents - harder than those that merely covered them up.  Nishonoseki could be in big, big trouble if they denied other incidents during the Ōnosato discussions with the Kyokai.  Now we can add sexually violent hazing to the underage drinking at the heya.  Will there be voices saying that Nishonoseki Oyakata needs additional training on how to be a good stable master?  Will his stable be taken away for an indeterminant time?  He is on the shinpan duties - will he be demoted in the hierarchy and lose those responsibilities?  Where was Nakamura Oyakata during this - It is his current man - Tomokaze - that was the senior person present during these events.  Will he get punished too?  Tomokaze? Kirinryū? Gone?  

There is almost a natural experiment here - two recently retired Yokozuna who have their own "new" stables and now have violence within.  Will punishments be similar? Or will we see some clear favoritism emerge?  While there was theft and violence at Miyagino, it was not sexual violence.  Let's see...  will the judges/juries be fair.  The cover up at Miyagino did not last as long.  This is over 2-years of a cover-up at Nishonoseki...

 

Edited February 19 by Muhomatsu

[Kaninoyama 1,797]

The article also mentioned drinking by an underage tokoyama, so that's another big red flag. 

Isegahama's going to have like 100 rikishi and three in-training oyakata at this rate. 

 

Edited February 19 by Kaninoyama

[Chartorenji 237]

Onosato going from being in trouble to reading this must be a whirlwind of emotions. 

[ryafuji 815]

Mods, now that we do have a separate thread on the Nishonoseki drinking party scandal, perhaps these off-topic posts could be merged there?

Edited February 20 by Jakusotsu
done

[Godango 996]

Wowwwwwwwww. The handling of this is going to be very interesting.

[Churaumi 743]

Wasn't there a similar element with some mop or broom handles with Hokuseiho's scandal?

[Bunbukuchagama 732]

41 minutes ago, Churaumi said:

Wasn't there a similar element with some mop or broom handles with Hokuseiho's scandal?

Not really. Anal insertion wasn't his thing, apparently.

[Seiyashi 4,098]

Would you rather be set on fire or have something shoved up your rear? 

[Yamanashi 3,865]

2 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Would you rather be set on fire or have something shoved up your rear? 

Or worse, something set on fire and then ...

[Kaninoyama 1,797]

2 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Would you rather be set on fire or have something shoved up your rear? 

I'd rather have both of those compared to what came next for the one who had the bottle shoved up his rear (according to the article). 

[Seiyashi 4,098]

16 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said:

I'd rather have both of those compared to what came next for the one who had the bottle shoved up his rear (according to the article). 

The one that boggles me is that that was done twice - once to Takaseidō, and once (voluntarily?) by the underage tokoyama. How pissed were they? 

[Naganoyama 5,928]

14 hours ago, Xiongmao said:

It's not pleasant. Reminds me of a normal night out in England back in the day.

Use that old translate function for the gory details.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c68fc7f917320e235a606835eff5b47f94d5e5a2?source=sns&dv=pc&mid=other&date=20250219&ctg=spo&bt=tw_up

Yahoo Japan not available here.

[Akinomaki 40,620]

Very nice of Dailyshincho to wait with this till after the promotion party, one of the biggest sources of income for a sekitori.

If this event with 1500 paying guests had to be cancelled...

[Akinomaki 40,620]

8 minutes ago, Naganoyama said:

Yahoo Japan not available here.

https://www.dailyshincho.jp/article/2025/02191131/?all=1

The original was posted earlier in the other scandal thread, hopefully split into here late

Edit: I haven't found a way yet to add quotes from other threads when I use a mobile device

Edited February 20 by Akinomaki

[Xiongmao 13]

44 minutes ago, Naganoyama said:

Yahoo Japan not available here.

How odd. Worldwide web and all that. And Yahoo Japan is the opposite of  subversive. Wonder why.