Asashosakari 19,646 Posted March 26 (edited) Daily Sports was first to publish the intai list this time; only 7 names are on it. Taiga (Arashio) Saidaiji (Ikazuchi) Shinhakuho (Isegahama) Kawabuchi (Shikoroyama) Goshimaru (Musashigawa) Chiyohokkai (Kokonoe) Tappa (Otake) On 10/03/2025 at 17:42, Yubinhaad said: [Arashio-beya] also announces that Taiga has retired, they had tried to persuade him to continue but it seems his heart was no longer in it and he had lost his will to train and compete. He felt that staying any longer would make him an obstacle to the other rikishi who are training hard, so he has already left the heya and set off towards a new goal he has found. Edited March 26 by Asashosakari 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 1,019 Posted March 26 (edited) Saidaiji and Goshimaru leave on a high. They both performed well in Haru, with no indication that they were calling it a day. At least one of jonidan and jonokuchi is going to be jam packed. Edited March 27 by Koorifuu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,753 Posted March 26 Only 6 of the 7 with pics from NikkanSp - no interest in Tappa Taiga o Saidaiji is the only shown in another paper o o Shinhakuho o Kawabuchi o Goshimaru o Chiyohokkai o 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,753 Posted March 26 The 8th from Miyagino to quit within a year, down to about half now - and no light yet at the end of the tunnel 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,646 Posted March 26 (edited) 21 hours ago, Asashosakari said: Taiga (Arashio) Saidaiji (Ikazuchi) Shinhakuho (Isegahama) Kawabuchi (Shikoroyama) Goshimaru (Musashigawa) Chiyohokkai (Kokonoe) Tappa (Otake) The final bouts of the three retiring rikishi who competed in Haru basho: Playlist Edited March 26 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sue 520 Posted March 27 22 hours ago, Asashosakari said: Shinhakuho (Isegahama) I guess he wasn't the new Hakuho after all. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,753 Posted March 27 5 hours ago, Sue said: I guess he wasn't the new Hakuho after all. He wasn't the new but the real Hakuho, and the real Hakuho has retired 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stupidface 34 Posted March 27 Chris Sumo speculating that Hokutofuji will be retiring within the next few weeks because he said "I did my best" not "my bad knee did it's best"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas21 188 Posted March 27 Because of the appearence on the Dohyo, I'm also expecting the retirement of Hokutofuji very soon. Without the ability to put weight on the knee, the whole Sumo approach falls apart. The only thing unchanged is the attitude. It hurts to see him like this. Compared to Aminishiki, he's older and there simply is no path to develop a decent no-knee Sumo style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stupidface 34 Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Andreas21 said: Because of the appearence on the Dohyo, I'm also expecting the retirement of Hokutofuji very soon. Without the ability to put weight on the knee, the whole Sumo approach falls apart. The only thing unchanged is the attitude. It hurts to see him like this. Compared to Aminishiki, he's older and there simply is no path to develop a decent no-knee Sumo style. I agree, I just find Chris Sumo's reasons a bit of a stretch. Edited March 27 by Stupidface Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,903 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Andreas21 said: Because of the appearence on the Dohyo, I'm also expecting the retirement of Hokutofuji very soon. Without the ability to put weight on the knee, the whole Sumo approach falls apart. The only thing unchanged is the attitude. It hurts to see him like this. Compared to Aminishiki, he's older and there simply is no path to develop a decent no-knee Sumo style. He's 32. College grad who started in Maezumo, made it to CH Komusubi in 24 basho; 7 kinboshi, and a JY less than two years ago. A very good career, but his style has set him up for a lot of pounding, especially since his injury in Jan 2024. Aminishiki was like the old junkball pitcher who could still get some guys out; Hokutofuji is like the ace reliever who's lost 10 mph off his fastball and gets lit up every outing. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fashiritētā 184 Posted March 27 If Hokutofuji retires, who will replace him , i guess URA can now have the most powerful MK in all of sumo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 219 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Yamanashi said: Aminishiki was like the old junkball pitcher who could still get some guys out I wouldn´t compare one of the best technicians of his time to a junkball pitcher. Old finesse pitcher might be more fitting. And to stay with BB references, yes, Hokutofuji really left it all on the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sue 520 Posted March 27 17 hours ago, Akinomaki said: He wasn't the new but the real Hakuho That's... worse. And now I have questions. How does a junior rikishi wind up with a moniker like that? And what sort of reaction does he get from peers and senpais? I'm imagining the reception that a rookie calling himself "the real Tom Brady" would have at a NFL training camp.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sue 520 Posted March 27 47 minutes ago, Gospodin said: I wouldn´t compare one of the best technicians of his time to a junkball pitcher. Old finesse pitcher might be more fitting. So he's the Greg Maddux of sumo? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,903 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Gospodin said: I wouldn´t compare one of the best technicians of his time to a junkball pitcher. Old finesse pitcher might be more fitting. And to stay with BB references, yes, Hokutofuji really left it all on the field. He was a great tactitian (who I admire) who also had a 47% win rate in Makuuchi. After his kyujo in 2016 (the comparison with Hokutofuji is apt here, I think), he threw everything he had into surviving; his win rate then was 46%. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,903 Posted March 28 On 26/03/2025 at 20:27, Sue said: I guess he wasn't the new Hakuho after all. Only in the sense that Shin Godzilla was the new Godzilla. Next great hope from the Miyagino/Isegahama studios: Hakuho -1! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,276 Posted March 28 9 hours ago, Yamanashi said: He's 32. College grad who started in Maezumo, made it to CH Komusubi in 24 basho; 7 kinboshi, and a JY less than two years ago. A very good career, but his style has set him up for a lot of pounding, especially since his injury in Jan 2024. Aminishiki was like the old junkball pitcher who could still get some guys out; Hokutofuji is like the ace reliever who's lost 10 mph off his fastball and gets lit up every outing. Hey!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,045 Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Yamanashi said: Next great hope from the Miyagino/Isegahama studios: Hakuho -1! My money's on Ohakuho or Hakuhoo. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 1,472 Posted March 28 If Hokutofuji does retire now he will still be on the May banzuke at around Ms1. I understand that he has the right to retire whenever he wants to, but I would be a bit peeved if I was a wrestler who ended up at Ms6e or Ms16e. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 219 Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said: If Hokutofuji does retire now he will still be on the May banzuke at around Ms1. I understand that he has the right to retire whenever he wants to, but I would be a bit peeved if I was a wrestler who ended up at Ms6e or Ms16e. I have no idea, but perhaps this is accounted for regarding promotion/demotion ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,853 Posted March 28 3 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said: I understand that he has the right to retire whenever he wants to, but I would be a bit peeved if I was a wrestler who ended up at Ms6e or Ms16e. Maybe, but not as peeved as the guy at Ms1e when a sekitori retires after the banzuke is set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 745 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Gospodin said: I have no idea, but perhaps this is accounted for regarding promotion/demotion ? Nope. The banzuke is written just after the basho and is set in stone. It's how they can announce new juryo so quickly. It also leads to quirky things like when Hokuseiho go kicked out. He was persona non grata so they didn't even want his shikona on the banzuke. His space was blank, and they didn't move anyone to fill it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 1,019 Posted March 28 42 minutes ago, RabidJohn said: Maybe, but not as peeved as the guy at Ms1e when a sekitori retires after the banzuke is set. The quirks involving juryo/makushita exchanges mean that the guy ranked ms1e is often not the first one to miss out. Like now. We'll probably have Akua in ms1e, but Kitanowaka would be the #1 contender for the extra spot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 219 Posted March 28 15 minutes ago, Churaumi said: Nope. The banzuke is written just after the basho and is set in stone. It's how they can announce new juryo so quickly. What I was trying to say with "accounted for" perhaps in an unofficial way. Also nope ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
