Kaninoyama 1,818 Posted April 9 (edited) Hopefully this post isn't jumping the gun, but reports are coming out from the Shuukan Bunshun that Hakuho is preparing to leave sumo, and Miyagino-beya to be closed indefinitely. The jist of the article is that the re-opening of Miyagino-beya does not appear to be anywhere close to happening, and when asked whether he's be resigning, Hakuho "didn't deny it." It's not official, but various media are beginning to pick up the story and run with it, so we'll see how it plays out. Report in Japanese ***Moderators, if you don't feel there's enough meat on this bone to be worthy of discussion, feel free to delete, but the story's out there, so I thought it was at least worth making note of it here. Edited April 16 by Kaninoyama 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morning 85 Posted April 9 That's a surprise. I had expected his "mentoring" to be over and Miyagino branching back out when Isegehama retires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,797 Posted April 9 It's Bunshun, lowest level tabloid in terms of sumo - their reason for the speculation: the recent rijikai didn't talk about the heya reopening On 09/04/2025 at 08:56, Kaninoyama said: when asked whether he's be resigning, Hakuho "didn't deny it." He didn't deny it, he said "What are you talking about?" - various crap sources on YT etc. are repeating it. I'd prefer to not have to deal with (blocked) Yahoo news - original: http://bunshun.jp/articles/-/78190 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,797 Posted April 9 Recent "news" along the line of this: Onosato denied the right of yokozuna promotion; the reason for Onosato's sudden retirement; Hakkaku fired; Hoshoryu intai ... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsurukame 5 Posted April 9 (edited) It seems like Isegahama-oyakata has also denied this rumour: https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202504090000803.html (This might probably show up a bit late since I just decided to come out of lurkdom, and the post still needs to be approved) Edited April 9 by Tsurukame Clarification 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,666 Posted April 9 (edited) On 09/04/2025 at 08:56, Kaninoyama said: Hopefully this post isn't jumping the gun, but reports are coming out from the Shuukan Bunshun that Hakuho is preparing to leave sumo, and Miyagino-beya to be closed indefinitely. Miyagino-beya already is "closed indefinitely", that's been the situation since April last year simply by virtue of the fact that no specific re-opening timetable was set at the time of closure. (Notwitstanding the constant barrage of people assuming that it definitely has to happen by date X, usually with X being defined by some more or less randomly chosen offset from the day Isegahama turns 65.) And yeah, as Akinomaki insinuated, this article's entire line of argument essentially seems to boil down to, "no change of status has been decided at this time, so no change will eeeeeever happen now, therefore Hakuho is leaving." It's incredibly thin even by tabloid standards. Edited April 9 by Asashosakari 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,855 Posted April 9 Who's in line to become Hakuho's next probation officer when Isegahama turns 65? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganzohnesushi 526 Posted April 9 On 09/04/2025 at 08:56, Kaninoyama said: ... Hakuho is preparing to leave sumo... You can't start early enough to plan your activities after retirement Only 20 more years for Hakuho. Ganzohnesushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,334 Posted April 9 (edited) 'What are you talking about?" = he doesn't outright deny he's retiring, so he must be retiring. That is some fanciful logic even for a BS tabloid. I'm sure that certain content creators will be having a field day with this one - "my sources tell me...." Edited April 9 by Katooshu 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,107 Posted April 9 On 09/04/2025 at 10:37, Akinomaki said: the reason for Onosato's sudden retirement Onosho would appreciate it if you stopped confusing him with Onosato. Unless....there was actually a rumor about Onosato retiring? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,797 Posted April 9 (edited) On 09/04/2025 at 16:34, Gurowake said: Onosho would appreciate it if you stopped confusing him with Onosato. Unless....there was actually a rumor about Onosato retiring? youtube?query=大の里+引退発表 Actually an April 1st news rush then - went on for several days though, for these news and tabloids, every day is Apr. 1st Edited April 10 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,049 Posted April 10 Every day is April 1st now since ChatGPT went online... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,818 Posted April 10 On 10/04/2025 at 05:00, Jakusotsu said: Every day is April 1st now since ChatGPT went online... This was clearly a big nothingburger but what does ChatGPT have to do anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaeucherLax 290 Posted April 10 On 10/04/2025 at 06:51, Kaninoyama said: This was clearly a big nothingburger but what does ChatGPT have to do anything? Probably referring to the huge amount of AI generated fake news and shite that's being poured into the net. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,522 Posted April 10 On 09/04/2025 at 16:29, Katooshu said: I'm sure that certain content creators will be having a field day with this one - "my sources tell me...." Ding ding ding! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 1,474 Posted April 10 I cannot comment on any speculation about my promotion to yokozuna in May, when I would become the first 59-year-old and the first Englishman to attain the rank. But as the JSA has not explicitly issued a statement that this will not happen... well.. draw your own conclusions. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,294 Posted April 14 (edited) Didn't Kintamayama predict that Hakuho will quit at some point? Maybe he's fed the tabloids some anonymous comments from to make his prediction come true Edited April 14 by dingo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,904 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 10:25, dingo said: Didn't Kintamayama predict that Hakuho will quit at some point? Maybe he's fed the tabloids some anonymous comments from to make his prediction come true If anonymous quotes fed to a tabloid actually made anonymous predictions come true, the Earth would now be a smooth spheroid of radioactive glass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripe 73 Posted April 14 On 14/04/2025 at 10:25, dingo said: Didn't Kintamayama predict that Hakuho will quit at some point? Maybe he's fed the tabloids some anonymous comments from to make his prediction come true I think he said that he expect Hakuho to leave within 5 years or so... or something along those lines. And he wasn't the only one thinking that if I remember correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jabbamaru 167 Posted April 14 That would be terrible for sumô... I hope it's just a factoid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,334 Posted April 14 (edited) He's already denied it, and the original quote hardly suggested he was quitting anyway. Just my own perception, but Hakuho strikes me as a fighter who would find motivation in a situation like this, to prove himself, rather than being driven to quit so quickly. Of course, that flame only burns for so long, after so many setbacks, after pissing off enough people, but if he quits I think there would have to be more piled on top than there is now. Edited April 14 by Katooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leoben 146 Posted April 14 If there's been no more news about this and no other outlets picking it up, plus the man himself and coach Isegahama denying it, I'm inclined to believe it was just click bait to score easy web traffic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,511 Posted April 15 Can I be Tigerboy's tachimochi? I really like mochi, so I think I would be good at it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,818 Posted April 15 I want to go back in time to a week ago and not have started this thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,855 Posted April 15 On 15/04/2025 at 06:17, Kaninoyama said: I want to go back in time to a week ago and not have started this thread. You could edit the title from 'rumour gaining traction' to 'baseless rumour'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
