Itachiyama 119 Posted April 24, 2005 (edited) Y Asashoryu (Y, 14-1) O Kaio (O, 10-5) Tochiazuma (O, 10-5) / - Chiyotaikai (O, 6-9) S Hakuho (S, 8-7) Tosanoumi (M3, 10-5) K Kotomitsuki (M2, 9-6) Wakanosato (M1, 8-7) M1 Tamanoshima (M7, 12-3) Roho (M6, 11-4) M2 Kokkai (M4, 9-6) Tochinonada (M4, 8-7) M3 Miyabiyama (S, 5-10) Kyokutenho (M1, 6-9) M4 Kaiho (M10, 11-4) Iwakiyama (K, 4-11) M5 Kotooshu (K, 4-11) Kakizoe (M2, 6-9) M6 Dejima (M5, 7-8) Hokutoriki (M5, 7-8) M7 Takamisakari (M8, 9-6) Jumonji (M7, 7-8) M8 Kotonowaka (M9, 8-7) Asasekiryu (M9, 8-7) M9 Ama (M11, 9-6) Kyokushuzan (M6, 5-10) M10 Futeno (M13, 8-7) Toyozakura (M14, 8-7) M11 Aminishiki (M17, 9-6) Kisenosato (M15, 8-7) M12 Buyuzan (M10, 6-9) Tokitsuumi (M16, 8-7) M13 Takanowaka (M12, 7-8) Toyonoshima (M13, 7-8) M14 Kotoshogiku (J4, 13-2) Hayateumi (M3, 0-0-15) M15 Takekaze (J3, 11-4) Tokitenku (J2, 10-5) M16 Tamakasuga (M15, 7-8) Katayama (J5, 10-5) M17 Shimotori (M8, 2-10-3) Toki (J2, 8-7) Edited April 24, 2005 by Itachiyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted April 24, 2005 Thanks a lot! The first thing that strikes me is how harshly Takamisakari has been treated. Kaiho at only M4 is another surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,649 Posted April 24, 2005 (edited) Thanks Itachiyama! (Sign of approval) Kaiho at only M4 is another surprise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is? That's exactly where I had him... I kind of agree about Sakari, but I should have seen that one coming, I guess...as I keep saying, 7-8 gets treated very leniently of late. (Whistling...) Edited April 24, 2005 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted April 24, 2005 Thanks Itachiyama! (Sign of approval) Thanks a lot!Kaiho at only M4 is another surprise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is? That's exactly where I had him... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good for you. (Whistling...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odoriou 0 Posted April 24, 2005 (Annoyed...) They must have been veeery drunk this time... (Whistling...) Kokkai (M4e, 9-6) - M2 - Tochinonada (M4w, 8-7) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,649 Posted April 24, 2005 (edited) (Annoyed...) Edited April 24, 2005 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 119 Posted April 24, 2005 (Annoyed...) They must have been veeery drunk this time... (Whistling...) Kokkai (M4e, 9-6) - M2 - Tochinonada (M4w, 8-7) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, Kokkai and Tochinonada are where they belong. There was no other place for this two! If you guessed the Banzuke you should have recognized it. Tochinonada was only more lucky than Kokkai because of the results of the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kajimoto Posted April 24, 2005 Does anyone have a juryo banzuke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 119 Posted April 24, 2005 Juryo Banzuke: J1 Wakatoba - Ishide J2 Tochisakae - Tamaasuka J3 Takanotsuru - Hakurozan J4 Senshuyama - Otsukasa J5 Kasugao - Kitazakura J6 Daishodai - Asofuji J7 Kasuganishiki - Wakanoyama J8 Kotoryu - Tochinohana J9 Kobo - Kinkaiyama J10 Yotsukasa - Gojoro J11 Kanbayashi - Chiyotenzan J12 Sumanofuji - Harunoyama J13 Daimanazuru - Kotokasuga J14 Dewanosato - Maikaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 119 Posted April 25, 2005 (edited) Makushita 15: Ms1 Kaido - Masatsukasa Ms2 Chiyohakuho - Kyokunankai Ms3 Onishi - Asanowaka Ms4 Ushiomaru - Asahimaru Ms5 Koryu - Hamanishiki Ms6 Ichinotani - Shiraishi Ms7 Masutsuyoshi - Fukkoyama Ms8 Dairaido - Wakainami Ms9 Toyonokuni - Raido Ms10 Wakakirin - Gokenzan Ms11 Tamamitsukuni - Hakiai Ms12 Hokutoiwa - Kakuryu Ms13 Komanofuji - Kotokanyu Ms14 Bushuyama - Kirinowaka Ms15 Ryuho - Tamarikido Ms22 Baruto - Oga Edited April 25, 2005 by Itachiyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachiyama 119 Posted April 25, 2005 For those who are interested in the whole Banzuke and don't want to wait for the Kyokai's page being updated: http://homepage3.nifty.com/izutsurm/17%94N/17-05/rank.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted April 25, 2005 IIRC, KOTORYU and ASANOWAKA have announced their retirements, yet both appear on the new banzuke (at J8E and Ms3W, respectively). Am I correct in thinking that this is because they retired after the banzuke was finished (and the NSK didn't want to go back and adjust the rankings)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tadanisakari 0 Posted April 25, 2005 IIRC, KOTORYU and ASANOWAKA have announced their retirements, yet both appear on the new banzuke (at J8E and Ms3W, respectively). Am I correct in thinking that this is because they retired after the banzuke was finished (and the NSK didn't want to go back and adjust the rankings)? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, you are correct. If you told the gyoji in charge of making the banzuke that he had to re-do the precise, beautiful Japanese calligraphy all the way down to Jonokuchi, you'd have one unhappy dude in pajamas and an eboshi. (Whistling...) Removing a single person near the top or middle of the banzuke actually has a ripple effect all the way down to the young upstarts in Jonokuchi, so it's pretty unfeasible to take Kotoryu and Asanowaka off this late. I'm gonna miss both those guys.. (Annoyed...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted April 25, 2005 IIRC, KOTORYU and ASANOWAKA have announced their retirements, <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Was it ever actually established that Asanowaka did indeed retire? There was a great deal of confusion over this a few weeks ago. (The whole "did he or didn't he?" thread). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senpai 0 Posted April 25, 2005 How high could Bart raise if he would have ideal basho from Ms22? (Whistling...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,649 Posted April 25, 2005 How high could Bart raise if he would have ideal basho from Ms22? (Whistling...) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Makushita 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,516 Posted April 25, 2005 IIRC, KOTORYU and ASANOWAKA have announced their retirements, <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Was it ever actually established that Asanowaka did indeed retire? There was a great deal of confusion over this a few weeks ago. (The whole "did he or didn't he?" thread). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Asanowaka is NOT officially retired. Yet.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 533 Posted April 25, 2005 Thanks Itachiyama! (Sign of approval) Kaiho at only M4 is another surprise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is? That's exactly where I had him... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I had him higher than that (Whistling...) What will surprise me is if hes still there next time. (Sign of disapproval) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryukaze 0 Posted April 25, 2005 (edited) Looks like we can count on a match between Asashoryu and "Roho" this next basho that should be interesting (ROho is just so strong I can't imagine even the Yokozuna just bulldozing right through him...) My boy "Kaiho" is rather high hope he can do well. Good to see Katayama in Makuuchi hopefully he will be here to stay, and of course I would like to see Toki go 0-15 (that wussy! lol)- Edited April 25, 2005 by Ryukaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted April 26, 2005 i just hope Kaiho will fave Asashoryu and Kaio... don't care how he wins both of these matches but be sure he WILL get them. :-S He will end up with 1 Kinboshi, 1 Ginboshi and a 5-10 record .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted April 26, 2005 K Kotomitsuki (M2, 9-6) Wakanosato (M1, 8-7) M1 Tamanoshima (M7, 12-3) - And then we have the komusubi west slot. - 12-3 for Tamanoshima should be good enough, don't you think? - Yes, and Wakanosato gets a half rank promotion. - No, I have a better idea! Imagine the quandary for hundreds of sumo gamers if we instead promote Wakanosato to komusubi together with Mickey! - Two of the most popular picks at the same rank - brilliant! - Zippy, you are a genius! I can hear them grinding their teeth already! Mwahahaha ... Eeny meeny miney moe ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,414 Posted April 26, 2005 Looks like we can count on a match between Asashoryu and "Roho" this next basho that should be interesting (ROho is just so strong I can't imagine even the Yokozuna just bulldozing right through him...) Let me try.... B-) I can imagine the Yokozuna bulldozing right through him (or any other rikishi you'd care to mention)....l (Running over the other guy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasugaran 0 Posted April 27, 2005 i just hope Kaiho will fave Asashoryu and Kaio...don't care how he wins both of these matches but be sure he WILL get them. (Nodding yes...) He will end up with 1 Kinboshi, 1 Ginboshi and a 5-10 record .... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dreams are free φίλο μου .... At least Chelsea are winning for you! (Holiday feeling...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted April 27, 2005 i have no complaints for Kaiho either ... last basho's 11 wins was as rare as chelsea's league championships in the last 100 years. this will change from now on for Chelsea but i doubt it will for Kaiho too. a second kinboshi is all i ask from this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiowaka 10 Posted April 27, 2005 i just hope Kaiho will fave Asashoryu and Kaio...don't care how he wins both of these matches but be sure he WILL get them. :-) He will end up with 1 Kinboshi, 1 Ginboshi and a 5-10 record .... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, Kaiho is going to win against Asashoryu and against Chiyotaikai ....................! For the rest, it is OK! 5-10, 1 kinboshi and 1 Ginboshi ! 3 others, it is against Miyabiyama, Wakanosato and Kokkai !!!!! :-P :-P :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
