Sandanme Game Alpha test

[Fay 1,677]

With thanks to Asashosakari for giving us a look at the alternate drone score, here are the win/loss records, projected wins out of 15, and projected # of kk after 8 days. I haven't had time to work in the group wins yet but I hope to do that soon.

Fay (33-27) ; 8.3 ; 4

Itachi (39-21) ; 9.75 ; 7

Sekihiryu (33-27) ; 8.25 ; 7

Tamanogijima (29-31) ; 7.25 ; 4

Doitsuyama (37-23) ; 9.25 ; 8

Drone#1(most popular) (39-21) ; 9.75 ; 9

Bad day for me, fire from all flanks, but more important, quite a good day for my boys.

Kaishoryu, Gokenzan and Kakureizan are 4-0, Kotomisen got a win today and is 3-1 and there is still some hope for the others except Shinzan, who is 0-4.

[Itachi 396]

With thanks to Asashosakari for giving us a look at the alternate drone score, here are the win/loss records, projected wins out of 15, and projected # of kk after 8 days. I haven't had time to work in the group wins yet but I hope to do that soon.

Fay (33-27) ; 8.3 ; 4

Itachi (39-21) ; 9.75 ; 7

Sekihiryu (33-27) ; 8.25 ; 7

Tamanogijima (29-31) ; 7.25 ; 4

Doitsuyama (37-23) ; 9.25 ; 8

Drone#1(most popular) (39-21) ; 9.75 ; 9

I can now confirm Asashosakari's score for the 'best previous' Drone.

Drone #2 (best previous record) (31-29) ; 7.75 ; 6

Also, I upgraded my spreadsheet to count group leaders and yusho leaders.

Here is a set of current projections for wins/15, # of kk, # of group winners, # of yusho equivalent records.

The last number is your projected Sandanme Game score out of 15. The best possible is the rikishi named Max.

Shikona wins ; kk ; gw ; ye ; score (out of 15)

Max (best possible) 13.75 ; 15 ; 15 ; 10 ; 14.125

Drone #1 (most popular) 9.75 ; 9 ; 5 ; 3 ; 9.73

Itachi 9.75 ; 7 ; 5 ; 4 ; 9.53

Doitsuyama 9.25 ; 8 ; 4 ; 2 ; 9.175

Sekihiryu 8.25 ; 7 ; 4 ; 2 ; 8.38

Drone #2 (best previous) 7.75 ; 6 ; 5 ; 2 ; 8.03

Fay 8.3 ; 4 ; 3 ; 3 ; 8

Tamanogijima 7.25 ; 4 ; 2 ; 0 ; 5.68

I can inflate the Sandanme Game scores a bit by scaling Max to a perfect 15 and everyone else by the same ratio. This would push 3 of us to 10 win records, 3 others to 9 wins and leave Tama-zeki unchanged at 6 so I didn't present the scores that way.

I think Drone #2 establishes a nice base line. If you do as well as the team that had the best record last basho then 8 wins is fair. To do as well as Drone #1, you need to do some research to find the most attractive picks (not necessarily always the best but rarely the worst)

It is not always possible to score a perfect 15 in this game unless there are enough yusho equivalent rikishi. The rarity of 15-0 opportunities may be appropriate.

I think the concerns about difficulty in achieving kk have been addressed. Our scores would range from 6-10 wins if we project it from today. Only one of us is in mk land (and deservedly so with only 4 of 15 rikishi with more wins than losses). Any thoughts?

Edited July 16, 2006 by Itachi

[Asashosakari 19,646]

It is not always possible to score a perfect 15 in this game unless there are enough yusho equivalent rikishi.

FWIW, there have always been exactly 1 or 2 unbeaten rikishi in Sandanme for as long as I can remember, so 145+ points seems to be pretty well impossible to me... (2x9 pts + 13x8 pts + 15 yusho pts = 137). And even that assumes that all non 7-0 groups have a 6-1 rikishi, which is far from a given. I suppose it might work (if barely) if you give 15 points for the yusho winner, and another 10 for the kettei-sen loser if there was one.

Edited July 16, 2006 by Asashosakari

[Itachi 396]

It is not always possible to score a perfect 15 in this game unless there are enough yusho equivalent rikishi.

FWIW, there have always been exactly 1 or 2 unbeaten rikishi in Sandanme for as long as I can remember, so 145+ points seems to be pretty well impossible to me... (2x9 pts + 13x8 pts + 15 yusho pts = 137). And even that assumes that all non 7-0 groups have a 6-1 rikishi, which is far from a given. I suppose it might work (if barely) if you give 15 points for the yusho winner, and another 10 for the kettei-sen loser if there was one.

Yes, I suppose it is nearly impossible. Well, if I scale everyone's result so that Max's score is a perfect 15 then all scores are possible for us. Max guesses that group winner for all 15 groups.

I considered giving everyone with jun-yusho equivalent scores the full 15 and then adding a bonus 10 for the kettei-sen (or outright) winner. This extra ten would bring the perfect score closer to achievable but probably not close enough and it puts too much emphasis on selecting the yusho winner.

So these scores are prorated according to the maximum possible score and as a result, we all get a bit of a boost.

Rikishi; (win-loss); projected wins; kk; group leads; yusho equivalent; Sd Game score

Max; (60-8); 13.23529; 15; 15; 3; 15

Itachi; (45-23); 9.93; 10; 6; 2; 11

Drone (popular); (44-24); 9.71; 10; 6; 1; 10.8

Fay; (37-31); 8.2; 6; 3; 2; 8.8

Drone (best previous); (37-34); 7.82; 7; 4; 1; 8.8

Doitsuyama; (40-26); 9.0909; 9; 5; 0; 8.4604

Sekihiryu; (36-32); 7.941; 7; 5; 0; 7.365

Tamanogijima; (34-33); 7.61; 7; 2; 0; 6.79

The order was not affected by the scaling and no one went from mk to kk but the scores are overall a bit higher. Now we have 2 at 11 wins, 2 at 9, one at 8, and 2 at 7.

Fay and Doitsuyama appear to have changed seats while I slept last night! Fay is now sanwiched between drones - in 2nd place amongst human contestants! Doitsuyama had enjoyed 2nd place for most of the tournament but now finds himself in the last kk spot (where Fay had been).

The main reason for this is the yusho equivalent record which is worth a big 15 points. Doitsu-zeki doesn't have any of the 5-0 rikishi while Fay and I have 2 (Max has only one more!).

Everyone still has more wins than losses though it is close for Tamanogijima at (34-33).

Fay is doing quite well considering she only has 6 kk rikishi (projected). They are 6 good ones though!

Good luck on day 10.

Itachi

[Fay 1,677]

Sandwiched, yes that's how I feel (I am not worthy...)

Gokenzan once again a bit disappointing, sometimes he stops fighting when he already reached KK, a bit risky at SD 7 if he really wants to return to Makushita.

Kakureizan was very bad in the last two bashos and a bit injured too, as he said, but he recovered and I hope he goes on and on.

And Kaishoryu... He had to give up at Hatsu basho and fell deep from MS 59 to SD 29 but obviously he is back again (I am not worthy...)

I have my doubts with Kotohikari, but Kotomisen and Kotootori should get their KK and hopefully the other guys who still have a chance too.

Still to mention, this is the Drone:favourite heya guess, so maybe it will end at last place, but it's just to show some virtual support.

[Itachi 396]

After 10 days ...

Rikishi; (win-loss); projected wins; kk; group leads; yusho equivalent; Sd Game score

Max; (64-11); 12.8; 15; 15; 5; 15

Drone - popular; (49-26); 9.8; 12; 6; 2; 11.3

Itachi; (49-26); 9.8; 12; 5; 3; 11.2

Sekihiryu; (41-34); 8.2; 10; 4; 1; 9.629

Fay ; (39-36); 7.8; 8; 3; 2; 9

Drone - previous; (39-36); 7.8; 7; 4; 1; 8.98

Doitsuyama; (42-33); 8.4; 11; 4; 0; 8.2244

Tamanogijima; (39-36); 7.8; 9; 2; 0; 7.31

I want better names than Drone - popular and Drone - previous.

I think I will call the three drones Past (best previous), Present (most popular), and Future (max possible).

Past only looks at the past records.

Present looks at who seems good for now.

Future can see who will do well and takes them.

The current standings:

Future - 15

Present - 11

Itachi - 11

Sekihiryu - 10

Fay - 9

Past - 9

Doitsuyama - 8

Tamanogijima - 7

Good luck on day 11.

Itachi

[Itachi 396]

I want better names than Drone - popular and Drone - previous.

I think I will call the three drones Mukashi (best previous), Genzai (most popular), and Mirai (max possible).

Mukashi only looks at the past records.

Genzai looks at who seems good for now.

Mirai can see who will do well and takes them.

After 11 days ...

Rikishi; (win-loss); projected wins; kk; group leads; yusho equivalent; Sd Game score

Mirai; (70-11); 12.96; 15; 15; 3; 15

Genzai; (51-28); 9.68; 12; 6; 1; 11.14

Itachi; (52-28); 9.75; 11; 6; 2; 11.08

Sekihiryu; (43-37); 8.06; 9; 5; 1; 9.44

Fay ; (46-38); 8.21; 8; 4; 1; 9.34

Mukashi; (43-40); 7.77; 6; 4; 1; 8.77

Doitsuyama; (46-34); 8.63; 11; 5; 0; 8.44

Tamanogijima; (42-36); 8.08; 9; 3; 0; 7.57

And the standings:

Mirai 15-0

Itachi 11-4

Genzai 11-4

Sekihiryu 9-6

Fay 9-6

Mukashi 9-6

Doitsuyama 8-7

Tamanogijima 8-7

Good luck on day 12.

Edited July 19, 2006 by Itachi

[Itachi 396]

After 12 days ...

Rikishi; (win-loss); projected wins; kk; group leads; yusho equivalent; Sd Game score

Mirai; (75-15); 12.50; 15; 15; 3; 15

Itachi; (57-33); 9.50; 10; 6; 2; 11.04

Genzai; (57-33); 9.50; 10; 5; 1; 10.92

Fay; (48-42); 8.00; 8; 3; 1; 9.28

Sekihiryu ; (48-42); 8.00; 7; 3; 1; 9.17

Mukashi; (45-45); 7.50; 5; 2; 1; 8.43

Doitsuyama; (51-39); 8.50; 8; 4; 0; 8.09

Tamanogijima; (48-42); 8.00; 7; 2; 0; 7.36

A comparison of the bottom three shows the effect of the yusho equivalent points. Not selecting any of the 6-0 rikishi has put Doitsuyama and Tamanogijima at a disadvantage vs Mukashi and its mediocre overall win-loss record.

And the standings:

Mirai 15-0

Itachi 11-4

Genzai 11-4

Fay 9-6

Sekihiryu 9-6

Mukashi 8-7

Doitsuyama 8-7

Tamanogijima 7-8

Good luck on day 13.

Itachi

Edited July 21, 2006 by Itachi

[Fay 1,677]

Yes, yes, yes ... 7-0 for Kaishoryu and a big jump back to Makushita !!!

Congratulations (Scratching chin...)

[Itachi 396]

Yes, yes, yes ... 7-0 for Kaishoryu and a big jump back to Makushita !!!

Congratulations (Scratching chin...)

Oof! Your Kaishoryu beat my undefeated Kaonishiki. Well done.

Fortunately I've still got Daitensho who beat undefeated Toho (who no one selected).

It looks like we both earn the yusho equivalent points. I wonder if either of us are scheduled for an extra 8th bout?

[Fay 1,677]

Yes, yes, yes ... 7-0 for Kaishoryu and a big jump back to Makushita !!!

Congratulations :-S

Oof! Your Kaishoryu beat my undefeated Kaonishiki. Well done.

Fortunately I've still got Daitensho who beat undefeated Toho (who no one selected).

It looks like we both earn the yusho equivalent points. I wonder if either of us are scheduled for an extra 8th bout?

Good luck for both of them. Both guys were injured but now they seem to have full strength again. Too bad that Daitensho slipped off the banzuke so low, but he will have a comeback to Makushita soon.

Edited July 21, 2006 by Fay

[Doitsuyama 1,192]

Too bad that Daitensho slipped off the banzuke so low, but he will have a comeback to Makushita soon.

With "soon" you meant Aki basho, right? Because he is 100% certain in makushita next basho...

[Fay 1,677]

Too bad that Daitensho slipped off the banzuke so low, but he will have a comeback to Makushita soon.

With "soon" you meant Aki basho, right? Because he is 100% certain in makushita next basho...

Wow, will he? No, I thought about Kyushu basho to be honest, didn't know he could rise so high from SD 53. Happy to hear this and thank's for the information!! :-S

[Doitsuyama 1,192]

Wow, will he? No, I thought about Kyushu basho to be honest, didn't know he could rise so high from SD 53. Happy to hear this and thank's for the information!! :-S

Just wanted to make sure of that. Any lower division 7-0 promotes to next division, except in makushita.

[Fay 1,677]

Wow, will he? No, I thought about Kyushu basho to be honest, didn't know he could rise so high from SD 53. Happy to hear this and thank's for the information!! :-S

Just wanted to make sure of that. Any lower division 7-0 promotes to next division, except in makushita.

You live and learn ... Thank's

[Itachi 396]

After 13 days ...

Rikishi; (win-loss); projected wins; kk; group leads; yusho equivalent; Sd Game score

Mirai; (79-17); 12.34; 15; 15; 2; 15

Itachi; (60-36); 9.38; 10; 6; 1; 11.03

Genzai; (59-37); 9.22; 10; 4; 1; 10.68

Fay; (53-42); 8.37; 9; 3; 1; 9.77

Sekihiryu ; (50-46); 7.81; 7; 3; 1; 9.10

Doitsuyama; (53-43); 8.28; 9; 4; 0; 8.10

Tamanogijima; (50-43); 8.06; 8; 2; 0; 7.59

Mukashi; (46-50); 7.19; 6; 3; 0; 6.77

Mukashi took a big hit for losing its last yusho equivalent rikishi.

And the standings:

Mirai 15-0

Itachi 11-4

Genzai 11-4

Fay 10-5

Sekihiryu 9-6

Doitsuyama 8-7

Tamanogijima 8-7

Mukashi 7-8

Good luck on day 14.

Itachi

[Itachi 396]

With one more day to go, most of our rikishi are finished for the tournament.

Mirai and Tamanogijima have 6 bouts today while Doitsuyama and Fay have 5, Genzai has 4 and the rest of us only 3 left (not counting any 8th bouts that may be scheduled).

Rikishi; (win-loss); projected wins; kk; group leads; yusho equivalent; Sd Game score

Mirai; (82-17); 12.42; 15; 15; 2; 15

Itachi; (66-36); 9.71; 11; 7; 1; 11.47

Genzai; (63-38); 9.36; 10; 5; 1; 10.85

Fay; (54-46); 8.10; 9; 2; 1; 9.40

Sekihiryu ; (54-48); 7.94; 8; 3; 1; 9.27

Doitsuyama; (57-43); 8.55; 9; 4; 0; 8.28

Tamanogijima; (54-45); 8.18; 9; 2; 0; 7.76

Mukashi; (51-51); 7.50; 8; 3; 0; 7.22

And the standings:

Mirai 15-0

Itachi 11-4

Genzai 11-4

Fay 10-5

Sekihiryu 9-6

Doitsuyama 8-7

Tamanogijima 8-7

Mukashi 7-8

Good luck on Senshuraku.

Itachi

[Itachi 396]

Keeping in mind that this is a trial run, here are the results after the final day of the tournament.

I have scored the game as I described in previous posts. The one area that may need to be adjusted is the yusho bonus. It was easier to give the bonus to everyone who had a yusho equivalent rikishi and so as it stands, Fay earns the same bonus for having Kaishoryu as Sekihiryu, Genzai, and myself who have the Sandanme playoff winner, Daitensho since both have 7-0 records. I had considered giving an additional 10 points (1 extra win overall) for those who actually had the yusho winner but I think the scores are high enough as it is. Thoughts?

Congratualtions to Mirai (who wil always win anyway but cannot recieve the yusho for obvious reasons).

Congratulations to Itachi (yes, that's me) for devising a game he (I) could win (kidding).

... pardon the interruption - I have to go. I'll post the results later today. Sorry.

.. everyone got kk except Mukashi.

[Fay 1,677]

Keeping in mind that this is a trial run, here are the results after the final day of the tournament.

I have scored the game as I described in previous posts. The one area that may need to be adjusted is the yusho bonus. It was easier to give the bonus to everyone who had a yusho equivalent rikishi and so as it stands, Fay earns the same bonus for having Kaishoryu as Sekihiryu, Genzai, and myself who have the Sandanme playoff winner, Daitensho since both have 7-0 records. I had considered giving an additional 10 points (1 extra win overall) for those who actually had the yusho winner but I think the scores are high enough as it is. Thoughts?

Congratualtions to Mirai (who wil always win anyway but cannot recieve the yusho for obvious reasons).

Congratulations to Itachi (yes, that's me) for devising a game he (I) could win (kidding).

... pardon the interruption - I have to go. I'll post the results later today. Sorry.

.. everyone got kk except Mukashi.

Thanks Itachi for running the game and have all this work done (as Randomitsuki and all the others). That kept me in in touch with the lower divisions and made the basho even more exciting.

About the scoring i think the guys who choose the Sandanme winner should get more points than, for example me, who had Kaishoryu ( or I should get less points..)

Congratulations to Daitensho for the yusho (Blushing...) and of course to you (Yusho winner...)

[Itachi 396]

About the scoring i think the guys who choose the Sandanme winner should get more points than, for example me, who had Kaishoryu ( or I should get less points..)

Ok, since the only player who will lose points (Fay) seems to approve I will adjust the scoring formula where it distributes bonus points for yusho equivalent scores.

There will be a full 15 point bonus awarded to those that have the yusho winner.

If you don't have the yusho winner but you have a rikishi with an equivalent record (who lost in the playoff) then you get only 10 points (this will put you one half win behind the yusho winner).

If you don't have the yusho winner and there isn't a rikishi with the same record than you can still pick up 5 points if you have the jun-yusho winner.

This way the yusho is still an advantage but getting close to the yusho is rewarded as well.

Here are the final results.

Rikishi; (win-loss); average wins per rikishi; kk; group leads; yusho equivalent; Sd Game score

Mirai (86-19); 12.29; 15; 15; 2; 15

Itachi (66-39); 9.43; 11; 5; 1; 11.11

Genzai (63-42); 9; 10; 4; 1; 10.53

Sekihiryu (54-51); 7.71; 8; 3; 1; 9.16

Fay (58-47); 8.29; 9; 2; 1; 9.05

Doitsuyama (59-46); 8.43; 9; 3; 0; 8.13

Tamanogijima (56-49); 8; 9; 1; 0; 7.56

Mukashi (52-53); 7.43; 8; 2; 0; 7.1

And the standings:

Mirai 15-0

Itachi 11-4

Genzai 11-4

Sekihiryu 9-6

Fay 9-6

Doitsuyama 8-7

Tamanogijima 8-7

Mukashi 7-8

Mirai cannot be awarded the yusho for the simple fact that it automatically wins every time.

I'm not sure if Genzai or Mukashi should be eligible or not - the best real player should get the award. This time, it seems to be me.

Sekihiryu would recieve recognition for the jun-yusho, narrowly edging out Fay by having the playoff winner.

As for Sansho, I think our numbers need to grow a bit before this would be meaningful. Some obvious categories for consderation would be - best overall win-loss record - most kk riksihi - most group winners. There ought to be a minimum level for each of these before a sansho can be awarded. I would've taken all of those this time too - I wonder if the yusho winner would always be on top of those categories in which case there is no point in awarding sansho.

As for the banzuke, I'm open to offers of banzuke construction. I considered having us all start in Jonokuchi as with the Guess the Yusho Winners Game. I considered starting us as new sekitori since we have 15 bouts. It's simpler for me if there is only one division for now (especially since there are so few of us) so I'd rather we start somewhere we can't easily be demoted out of the division from. How about we start in upper Makuuchi (except Mirai who is expected to always win).

Yokozuna East: Mirai

M1E: Itachi M1W: Genzai

M2E: Sekihiryu M2W: Fay

M3E: Doitsuyama M3W: Tamanogijima

M4E: Mukashi

New entrants can start in the next available spot.

Some rough promotion guidelines for upper sanyaku:

Ozeki promotion after 3 consecutive double digit win performances in Sanyaku (last one must be Sekiwake). Yokozuna promotion after 2 consecutive yusho as Ozeki with no more than 6 combined losses or 3 consecutive yusho equivalent or jun-yusho records with at least one yusho and no more than 7 combined losses.

If the Ozeki promotion rule is too soft, we could add a requirement for a minimum total of 33.

The Yokozuna rule allows for 13y-12jy-13ye to lead to promotion or 12y-12y to give the weakest promotable examples. I think it might be too difficult but we don't want that position to fill up too soon.

Ozeki demotion as per usual kadoban rules. Perhaps some special kadoban rule for Yokozuna will be needed.

I've made up a spreadsheet with everyone's detailed records including the makeup of Mirai's winning team. I'll try to set that up to be viewable here later on.

I expect that Mukashi will be studying Mirai's picks to prepare for next tournament.

Thanks to everyone for playing and to those who are just observing, thanks for your interest - come and join us in September!

My email link is correct now so lost emails such as Torideyama's shouldn't happen anymore.

Comments? Suggestions?

Edited July 24, 2006 by Itachi

[Itachi 396]

Here is everyone's complete lineup with detailed results

For Mirai I included all possible rikishi it could have chosen for the groups where more than one rikishi had the best record. This may be useful for Mukashi in deciding its picks for next basho.

The last three numbers in each row are wins, losses, and group (1 to 15). Pasted in tables from excel don't seem to line up very nicely.

Ignore the --o-** lines, I must have cut them short, they don't display all 15 days.

Mukashi from heya wins losses group

Fujitsukasa Sd5W Shizuoka Irumagawa *--O-* 2 5 1

Hanada Sd6E Aomori Naruto -*-**- 0 7 2

Isoazuma Sd11W Kanagawa Tamanoi O--O*- 2 5 3

Yamasaki Sd19W Ehime Musashigawa -*O--O 4 3 4

Murayoshi Sd21W Yamaguchi Hanaregoma -OO--O 3 4 5

Kaonishiki Sd27W Akita Azumazeki -O-OO- 6 1 6

Morioka Sd34W Hyogo Arashio O-O-O- 5 2 7

Tochikasuga Sd39W Aichi Kasugano O--OO- 4 3 8

Sadanoumi Sd44E Kumamoto Sakaigawa -O-*-O 5 2 9

Chiyonoshin Sd50W Mie Kokonoe -**-O- 3 4 10

Toma Sd52E Fukuoka Shikihide -O-**- 2 5 11

Takunishiki Sd63E Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-O 5 2 12

Kakushoma Sd76W Hyogo Izutsu O--*-* 4 3 13

Jiguruma Sd81E Osaka Musashigawa -*O--* 4 3 14

Shimasegawa Sd94W Kagoshima Kiriyama *-O--* 3 4 15

Fay from heya wins losses group

Kaishoryu Sd4W Tokyo Tomozuna -OO--O 7 0 1

Gokenzan Sd7W Kagawa Takanohana O--OO- 4 3 2

Kakureizan Sd15E Aichi Izutsu O-O-O- 6 1 3

Enatsukasa Sd18W Gifu Irumagawa O--O*- 5 2 4

Kyokushoten Sd23W Tokyo Oshima -*-OO- 4 3 5

Kotohikari Sd27E Ibaraki Sadogatake O--*-* 5 2 6

Wakamifuji Sd32W Aomori Magaki *-O--* 4 3 7

Asahanada Sd36W Miyagi Takasago *-*-*- 1 6 8

Gagamaru Sd45W Georgia Kise -OO-*- 5 2 9

Takashoma Sd48E Hokkaido Takanohana -*O--O 3 4 10

Shinzan Sd52W Kanagawa Takasago -*-**- 1 6 11

Kotomisen Sd64E Shimane Sadogatake *-O--O 5 2 12

Kotootori Sd74W Shimane Sadogatake O--O*- 2 5 13

Seiryu Sd89E Aichi Nishonoseki *--**- 3 4 14

Masunoumi Sd95W Osaka Dewanoumi -O-*-* 3 4 15

Itachi from heya wins losses group

Sadanofuji Sd3E Nagasaki Sakaigawa O-*--O 4 3 1

Shironishiki Sd6W Mongolia Sakaigawa -O*--O 5 2 2

Kakureizan Sd15E Aichi Izutsu O-O-O- 6 1 3

Orora Sd20E Russia Kitanoumi -O-*-* 2 5 4

Maenoyu Sd24E Mongolia Takadagawa -O*--* 3 4 5

Kaonishiki Sd27W Akita Azumazeki -O-OO- 6 1 6

Morioka Sd34W Hyogo Arashio O-O-O- 5 2 7

Masuhikari Sd37W Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-* 4 3 8

Gagamaru Sd45W Georgia Kise -OO-*- 5 2 9

Ginkakuzan Sd47W Kyoto Nishikido -O-*-O 2 5 10

Daitensho Sd53E Mongolia Takashima O-O-O- 7 0 11

Takunishiki Sd63E Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-O 5 2 12

Yoshinoryu Sd78W Aichi Dewanoumi -O-*-O 4 3 13

Seifu Sd86E Aichi Oitekaze O--O*- 5 2 14

Masuko Sd100E Tokyo Nakamura O--*O- 3 4 15

Sekihiryu from heya wins losses group

Sadanofuji Sd3E Nagasaki Sakaigawa O-*--O 4 3 1

Shironishiki Sd6W Mongolia Sakaigawa -O*--O 5 2 2

Kyokuryudake Sd11E Tokyo Oshima *-*--O 4 3 3

Yamasaki Sd19W Ehime Musashigawa -*O--O 4 3 4

Maenoyu Sd24E Mongolia Takadagawa -O*--* 3 4 5

Asahisakari Sd30E Tokushima Dewanoumi -OO--O 3 4 6

Morioka Sd34W Hyogo Arashio O-O-O- 5 2 7

Masuhikari Sd37W Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-* 4 3 8

Gagamaru Sd45W Georgia Kise -OO-*- 5 2 9

Ako Sd46W Mongolia Ajigawa *-*-*- 3 4 10

Daitensho Sd53E Mongolia Takashima O-O-O- 7 0 11

Takakiho Sd66W Tokyo Takanohana O--O*- 3 4 12

Kabutoiwa Sd72W Kumamoto Kise *--**- 0 7 13

Ikemoto Sd85W Yamaguchi Nakamura -**--* 1 6 14

Masuko Sd100E Tokyo Nakamura O--*O- 3 4 15

Tamanogijima from heya wins losses group

Sadanofuji Sd3E Nagasaki Sakaigawa O-*--O 4 3 1

Futasegawa Sd7E Aichi Kiriyama *-O--* 3 4 2

Fujinokaze Sd14E Hyogo Oguruma -*O--O 4 3 3

Yamasaki Sd19W Ehime Musashigawa -*O--O 4 3 4

Maenoyu Sd24E Mongolia Takadagawa -O*--* 3 4 5

Yuminosato Sd30W Fukui Naruto O--*O- 3 4 6

Wakamifuji Sd32W Aomori Magaki *-O--* 4 3 7

Masuhikari Sd37W Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-* 4 3 8

Gagamaru Sd45W Georgia Kise -OO-*- 5 2 9

Ako Sd46W Mongolia Ajigawa *-*-*- 3 4 10

Wakamigo Sd54E Osaka Magaki -O*--* 1 6 11

Takunishiki Sd63E Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-O 5 2 12

Kakushoma Sd76W Hyogo Izutsu O--*-* 4 3 13

Oseumi Sd88E Miyazaki Ounomatsu O-O-O- 6 1 14

Masuko Sd100E Tokyo Nakamura O--*O- 3 4 15

Doitsuyama from heya wins losses group

Shimada Sd1E Hyogo Kitanoumi -*-O-O 5 2 1

Shironishiki Sd6W Mongolia Sakaigawa -O*--O 5 2 2

Kachimori Sd12E Iwate Isenoumi -O-**- 1 6 3

Sadanoshima Sd16E Nagasaki Sakaigawa -O*--* 3 4 4

Maenoyu Sd24E Mongolia Takadagawa -O*--* 3 4 5

Asahisakari Sd30E Tokushima Dewanoumi -OO--O 3 4 6

Morioka Sd34W Hyogo Arashio O-O-O- 5 2 7

Masuhikari Sd37W Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-* 4 3 8

Gagamaru Sd45W Georgia Kise -OO-*- 5 2 9

Kabasawa Sd47E Aomori Hakkaku O--OO- 3 4 10

Wakatora Sd56E Mongolia Hanaregoma -*-*-* 4 3 11

Takunishiki Sd63E Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-O 5 2 12

Kirinishiki Sd71W Ibaraki Michinoku -O-O-O 6 1 13

Bungonishiki Sd89W Oita Dewanoumi -*-O-O 4 3 14

Masuko Sd100E Tokyo Nakamura O--*O- 3 4 15

Genzai from heya wins losses group

Sadanofuji Sd3E Nagasaki Sakaigawa O-*--O 4 3 1

Shironishiki Sd6W Mongolia Sakaigawa -O*--O 5 2 2

Kakureizan Sd15E Aichi Izutsu O-O-O- 6 1 3

Yamasaki Sd19W Ehime Musashigawa -*O--O 4 3 4

Maenoyu Sd24E Mongolia Takadagawa -O*--* 3 4 5

Asahisakari Sd30E Tokushima Dewanoumi -OO--O 3 4 6

Morioka Sd34W Hyogo Arashio O-O-O- 5 2 7

Masuhikari Sd37W Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-* 4 3 8

Gagamaru Sd45W Georgia Kise -OO-*- 5 2 9

Ako Sd46W Mongolia Ajigawa *-*-*- 3 4 10

Daitensho Sd53E Mongolia Takashima O-O-O- 7 0 11

Takunishiki Sd63E Chiba Chiganoura -O-*-O 5 2 12

Hatayama Sd75E Kochi Shikoroyama -O-*-O 5 2 13

Isetsukasa Sd83W Mie Irumagawa -*O-*- 1 6 14

Masuko Sd100E Tokyo Nakamura O--*O- 3 4 15

Mirai from heya wins losses group

Kaishoryu Sd4W Tokyo Tomozuna -OO--O 7 0 1

Shironishiki Sd6W Mongolia Sakaigawa -O*--O 5 2 2

Fudoyama Sd10E Mongolia Takashima -OO-*- 5 2 2

Kakureizan Sd15E Aichi Izutsu O-O-O- 6 1 3

Aogifuji Sd20W Osaka Ajigawa O-*--O 6 1 4

Tamaryoma Sd22W Kochi Kataonami O-O--* 5 2 5

Satsumanishiki Sd25W Kagoshima Matsugane O-*--O 5 2 5

Kaonishiki Sd27W Akita Azumazeki -O-OO- 6 1 6

Morioka Sd34W Hyogo Arashio O-O-O- 5 2 7

Miyamaru Sd31W Kanagawa Kitanoumi -O-O-* 5 2 7

Takamaru Sd33E Chiba Asahiyama O--O*- 5 2 7

Terusegawa Sd36E Kumamoto Kiriyama -*-O-O 5 2 8

Gotenyu Sd38W Hokkaido Kitanoumi *-O-O- 5 2 8

Hokutogo Sd42E Ibaraki Hakkaku -OO--* 6 1 9

Gagamaru Sd45W Georgia Kise -OO-*- 5 2 10

Akinohana Sd49W Aomori Ajigawa -O-O-* 5 2 10

Daitensho Sd53E Mongolia Takashima O-O-O- 7 0 11

Nankairiki Sd68W Kochi Kise -O-OO- 6 1 12

Kirinishiki Sd71W Ibaraki Michinoku -O-O-O 6 1 13

Toho Sd77W Hyogo Otake -O-OO- 6 1 13

Oseumi Sd88E Miyazaki Ounomatsu O-O-O- 6 1 14

Hidaka Sd91W Kagoshima Naruto -*O-O- 5 2 15

Terunosato Sd92E Ehime Naruto *-O--O 5 2 15

Tomishima Sd92W Osaka Shikoroyama -O-OO- 5 2 15

Hananosato Sd97E Ibaraki Takasago O-O-O- 5 2 15

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Puuuuuuuuuh, a lot of work.

I really appreciate everyone who is hard working on the statistics and the games and once again thank you to all of them.

So let me give you my survey on my guys:

- Kaishoryu was brilliant this basho - well of course, I couldn't see him, but due to his results, I think he was. He seems to be completely recovered from his injury and I look forward to september when I can see him again :-)

- Gokenzan ... as always, he stops fighting when he has his KK >:-(

- Kakureizan good performance, I will watch him closer next basho

- Enatsukasa dito

- Kyokushoten .. ok

- Kotohikari after his drop to Sandanme, I didn't expect him to perform so well, but of course I'm glad he did.

- Wakamifuji don't know him really, but perhaps I should start watching him

- Asahanda 1-6, tsetsetse

- Gagamaru good performance

- Takashoma ;-) don't know what to do with this guy :-) . He surely can do better and he is a nice one. So I don't give up.

- Shinzan another disappointing one from Takasago

- Kotomisen yes, go on. I didn't expect a 5-2, to be honest, but he is always hard working in asageiko and I hope he can fight as well in Aki Basho. (Laughing...)

- Kotootori also hard working, but no success this time

- Seiryu and Masunoumi still don't know anything about them